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You're projecting your wants and priorities onto the world. Look....theres always the outside possibility that your read on the market is better than all the market research and megacorporation insights combined. Doubt it though.
I speak like a long time gamer who actually understands the world of gaming.
Has nothing to do with my wants.. what have you lived under a rock all these years?
GAMERS don't care about what you comically think will happen to the industry.
You work for Microsoft now or something? Cause they been spewing this type of BS for years.
You are out of touch just like them.
You said by 2022 XSX would overtake PS5 and I will hold you to it.
 
I speak like a long time gamer who actually understands the world of gaming.
Has nothing to do with my wants.. what have you lived under a rock all these years?
GAMERS don't care about what you comically think will happen to the industry.
You work for Microsoft now or something? Cause they been spewing this type of BS for years.
You are out of touch just like them.
You said by 2022 XSX would overtake PS5 and I will hold you to it.
How did you do that? Understand the world? Your Jedi powers have certainly evolved.
 


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People will pay to play online for solid games on good hardware and services.

360 two generations ago and Playstation ever since last gen.
 


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People will pay to play online for solid games on good hardware and services.

360 two generations ago and Playstation ever since last gen.

Yup I happily pay for both companies services. Ps plus offerings have always been good.
 
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People will pay for more than one subscription. That's what makes the subscription wars significantly different from the console ones. Consumers who buy one sub are very likely to subscribe to more. Stopping at one is the rarity. Key is having those subs accessible....through cloud, PC and cheaper console options. I predict Sony will be on PC in a bigger way within the next few years. Too much money left on the table not to.
 
People will pay for more than one subscription. That's what makes the subscription wars significantly different from the console ones. Consumers who buy one sub are very likely to subscribe to more. Stopping at one is the rarity. Key is having those subs accessible....through cloud, PC and cheaper console options. I predict Sony will be on PC in a bigger way within the next few years. Too much money left on the table not to.
After seeing all the gamers on social media playing Xbox games on MacBooks and iPhones yesterday, it all started to make sense. That is slick as s***. Subbing to game pass and xCloud is some futuristic looking stuff.
 
After seeing all the gamers on social media playing Xbox games on MacBooks and iPhones yesterday, it all started to make sense. That is slick as s***. Subbing to game pass and xCloud is some futuristic looking stuff.
It's going to have a real and significant impact on the industry. The tech isn't up to snuff in the US right now. It will be "good enough" long term for mainstream. Even for hardcore as a supplement to their PC and consoles. It'll work when there's true 5G and eventually data cap limitations adjust along with them. More accessories and complimentary cloud gaming options will come out to make it more convenient. What we see available today is probably running at about 10% of the quality (in terms of responsiveness) of what will be available in the next 5 to 10 years. There's also going to be hybrid options which will have a much greater near term impact.

Many console gamers have been playing on displays with 40+ms TV latency at 30fps last generation. In the future, the combined latency with 5G on a portable display running at 60fps (or more) will feel similar. We're all in this enthusiast traditional bubble here and I get why most here think it's nonsense but I can't find anyone credible with data or research on the topic who doesn't think streaming will expand the industry.

Then there's the entire slowing of Moore's Law and scalability aspect. You're going to see more and more local gaming capable devices in the near future outside of console and high end PC. All major game engines are highly scalable. You're going to see companies like Apple releasing standard Ipads capable of playing most mainstream AAA games (like CoD, EA Sports, Destiny, etc) and run them locally at some level of visual fidelity.

Bottom line is there will be so many options that console sale deltas aren't that vital. I threw out a prediction but in the end, who leads 25% one direction or another matters very little in the long term scheme of things.
 
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Honestly, as long as MS continues with Gamepass, release their new first party devs games and keep making the most powerful hardware, I don't care if they sell like ass.
If anything, PS outselling them means bad things for the Ponys, Sony will never learn from their huge mistakes of not going with the times and when they do it'll be too late.
RIP Sony
As a Game Pass whore, the only thing I really care about when it comes to my platforms numbers is that Game Pass continues to do well enough to be supported. So far it's ahead of schedule (both on and off the record). Besides that, hope Sony does incredibly well. They'll continue to put pressure on Microsoft to deliver impressive AAA games. As a Game Pass first customer, I want that talking point. Want trolls like Val staying on the narratives for Microsoft to deliver content on or above par with games like God of War. The investments they're making right now have a lot to do with combating that narrative. It's good for Xbox consumers. On the other side, it's good that Microsoft is creative a narrative for Sony to match value. Anyone hoping for the demise of one of them is putting a corporation's victory above their own personal benefits.
 
Moving on to the argument of the AA's....I've heard the same statements from the general media including really big names who are usually connected...it's wrong. I've seen some of the job postings...and job hires. They're making huge games. Scope of some of the stuff in their pipeline is the most expensive stuff they've developed. InXile's next AAA game, for example, is going to be more expensive than anything Microsoft has published up to this point. InXile was a AA dev when acquired. InXile isn't the end of it. Just one example.

AAA games are generally around $100 million to develop. Sony's most expensive stuff like LoU2 is around $200 million. Microsoft paid $7.5 billion for Bethesda. That's 37 LoU2's. Keep that in mind when hearing this notion that Microsoft is suddenly going to trim all the budgets of these studios. It makes no sense. If you're mostly going to focus on AA stuff, you could make those games at 20 to 50 million...with $50 million looking AAAish with today's tools. In other words, Microsoft could've made around 160 really nice looking, borderline AAA games for what they paid for Bethesda. You only invest like that if you're going the distance. Nadella understands the importance of tentpole IPs based on his comments. Looking forward to the AAA games comparisons this gen.
 
Moving on to the argument of the AA's....I've heard the same statements from the general media including really big names who are usually connected...it's wrong. I've seen some of the job postings...and job hires. They're making huge games. Scope of some of the stuff in their pipeline is the most expensive stuff they've developed. InXile's next AAA game, for example, is going to be more expensive than anything Microsoft has published up to this point. InXile was a AA dev when acquired. InXile isn't the end of it. Just one example.

AAA games are generally around $100 million to develop. Sony's most expensive stuff like LoU2 is around $200 million. Microsoft paid $7.5 billion for Bethesda. That's 37 LoU2's. Keep that in mind when hearing this notion that Microsoft is suddenly going to trim all the budgets of these studios. It makes no sense. If you're mostly going to focus on AA stuff, you could make those games at 20 to 50 million...with $50 million looking AAAish with today's tools. In other words, Microsoft could've made around 160 really nice looking, borderline AAA games for what they paid for Bethesda. You only invest like that if you're going the distance. Nadella understands the importance of tentpole IPs based on his comments. Looking forward to the AAA games comparisons this gen.
They definitely need "AAA" so in the short term it wouldn't be something I would be worried about. Long term I would question whether they would be willing to spend the kind of money or time Sony does now but that would be pure speculation and Sony might not be willing to do it long term either.
 
Road to the Show apparently has made the game get negative marks.

Yep, there's definitely legit reasons for the reviews to drop and not just because it is out on Xbox. Road to the Show is a major mode and it is in bad shape.
 
As a Game Pass whore, the only thing I really care about when it comes to my platforms numbers is that Game Pass continues to do well enough to be supported. So far it's ahead of schedule (both on and off the record). Besides that, hope Sony does incredibly well. They'll continue to put pressure on Microsoft to deliver impressive AAA games. As a Game Pass first customer, I want that talking point. Want trolls like Val staying on the narratives for Microsoft to deliver content on or above par with games like God of War. The investments they're making right now have a lot to do with combating that narrative. It's good for Xbox consumers. On the other side, it's good that Microsoft is creative a narrative for Sony to match value. Anyone hoping for the demise of one of them is putting a corporation's victory above their own personal benefits.
Without getting into my issues with such practices... I'll get to the point without sugar coating it.
I see GP not being significant anytime soon and I long for its demise.
 
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Looks like Sony isn't sitting back, and is working on trying to compete with extremely popular Game Pass.

Sony could be set to roll movie content into PlayStation Plus subscriptions, according to images briefly uploaded to its website on Wednesday.

A logo for ‘PlayStation Plus Video Pass’ was published on Sony’s official website today, along with the following description on its Polish website (now removed):

“A new benefit available for a limited time on PlayStation Plus… PS Plus Video Pass is a trial service active 22.04.21 – 22.04.22. The subscription benefit is available to PS Plus users in Poland.”

It’s not clear if the listing is describing a global or local service, but we’ve requested clarification from Sony Interactive Entertainment.

Last month, Sony announced that the PlayStation Store would stop offering TV and movie content for purchase or rental later this year.

From August 31, 2021, video content will no longer be available via the digital storefront, the company said. However, existing purchases will still be available to access.

It could be that the platform holder is looking to increase the value of its paid subscription service, in the midst of strong competition from Xbox Game Pass, by rolling some video offerings into PS Plus.

Crucially, the three movies featured in PlayStation.com’s now-removed website banner – Venom, Bloodshot and Zombieland – are all produced by Sony’s own movie business.

Sony also owns a significant amount of television content through Sony Pictures Television, and anime content through Funimation.

A large number of streaming services are currently available on PS4 and PS5, including Netflix, Disney+, Apple TV and more.

Recently PlayStation launched initiatives that could be viewed as moves to counter the popularity of Game Pass.

With the launch of PlayStation 5, Sony debuted the PlayStation Plus Collection, a library of 20 PS4 games which PlayStation Plus subscribers can play on PS5.

Asked in November if there were plans to grow the collection, which currently consists of 10 first-party games and 10 third-party ones, Ryan told GQ Sony is taking a wait and see approach.


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Moving on to the argument of the AA's....I've heard the same statements from the general media including really big names who are usually connected...it's wrong. I've seen some of the job postings...and job hires. They're making huge games. Scope of some of the stuff in their pipeline is the most expensive stuff they've developed. InXile's next AAA game, for example, is going to be more expensive than anything Microsoft has published up to this point. InXile was a AA dev when acquired. InXile isn't the end of it. Just one example.

AAA games are generally around $100 million to develop. Sony's most expensive stuff like LoU2 is around $200 million. Microsoft paid $7.5 billion for Bethesda. That's 37 LoU2's. Keep that in mind when hearing this notion that Microsoft is suddenly going to trim all the budgets of these studios. It makes no sense. If you're mostly going to focus on AA stuff, you could make those games at 20 to 50 million...with $50 million looking AAAish with today's tools. In other words, Microsoft could've made around 160 really nice looking, borderline AAA games for what they paid for Bethesda. You only invest like that if you're going the distance. Nadella understands the importance of tentpole IPs based on his comments. Looking forward to the AAA games comparisons this gen.
Looking forward to the AAA comparisons! I'm looking for actual AAA games published by MS!(it's been years)
They are pushing me away from the product only talking GP.
They need to also focus on the bigger part of there own market that doesn't f*** with GP as well.

Things better change or I might sell my s*** and bounce.
 
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Is the Switch on the shelf tease just going to end up being Master Chief in Smash or something similar?
 
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Xbox "Free to Play" is now "Free to Play"



 
Looking forward to the AAA comparisons! I'm looking for actual AAA games published by MS!(it's been years)
They are pushing me away from the product only talking GP.
They need to also focus on the bigger part of there own market that doesn't f*** with GP as well.

Things better change or I might sell my s*** and bounce.

Get Out No GIF
 
They definitely need "AAA" so in the short term it wouldn't be something I would be worried about. Long term I would question whether they would be willing to spend the kind of money or time Sony does now but that would be pure speculation and Sony might not be willing to do it long term either.
Netflix, HBO, Amazon and Disney have put together some of the most expensive shows ever. Movie Theatre budgets for single episodes in some cases. Netflix spent 17 billion on content last year and is increasing that budget by about 2 billion yearly. Subscriptions reduce the risk for AAA games. 200 million for a tentpole game every 2 to 3 months seems like peanuts in that lens. Especially when those games will still be sold full price to those who don't buy into the subscriptions and there's other merchandizing opportunities with games that come along less often with movies.


Looking forward to the AAA comparisons! I'm looking for actual AAA games published by MS!(it's been years)

They are pushing me away from the product only talking GP.
They need to also focus on the bigger part of there own market that doesn't f*** with GP as well.

Things better change or I might sell my s*** and bounce.
GP is the reason they're investing so heavily into AAA. Get use to them talking about GP. It's the platform. If that bothers you, might as well cut your losses now. I'm sure you could at least break even if you sold.

Without getting into my issues with such practices... I'll get to the point without sugar coating it.
I see GP not being significant anytime soon and I long for its demise.
It's way ahead of schedule. By end of 2022 when it's at 50 million, it'll be part of popular culture. A lot of people appreciate the option. Get over it.
 
Without getting into my issues with such practices... I'll get to the point without sugar coating it.
I see GP not being significant anytime soon and I long for its demise.

Why would you long for a demise for a service that people actually enjoy? And you know the pipeline for AAA games by Xbox they're getting the ball rolling they didn't have their house in order like playstation does.
 
Did Sony secretly hire Don Mattrick?
Not the same thing really. It's not detracting from the focus on games. It's leveraging something that already exists within the company. These companies will try to find ways to create more value. Need to see more to determine whether this accomplishes that.
 
Why would you long for a demise for a service that people actually enjoy? And you know the pipeline for AAA games by Xbox they're getting the ball rolling they didn't have their house in order like playstation does.
I would because MS overall goals/intentions are not good is why.
Ultimately if it became the standard, options we have now would disappear and that's not good for the industry.
I don't trust them.

As far as the AAA games, I been hearing about these games since the latter 360 days.
They have had studios and IP's for a long time now.

I want them to address the non Gamepass gamers like me as we are the most important because we are the larger portion.
 
I would because MS overall goals/intentions are not good is why.
Ultimately if it became the standard, options we have now would disappear and that's not good for the industry.
I don't trust them.

As far as the AAA games, I been hearing about these games since the latter 360 days.
They have had studios and IP's for a long time now.

I want them to address the non Gamepass gamers like me as we are the most important because we are the larger portion.
Intentions not good? Lol! What is that? None of these companies are running charities. It's business. As long as there's demand for traditional sales, they'll be offered. Why would they reduce their own profits by taking away a profitable option? Your mind is playing tricks on you man.
 
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