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Who are those people? I don't think anyone active here is on my ignore list so... ?

Mainly SpartanDawgX1 and Hedon here.

Spartan starts off fine with this:

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Then suddenly brings in Halo? Not sure why. Insecure much?

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Says Halo looks fine but then goes and downplays Horizon's visuals. It's fine if you're not in awe but to say it's a not next-gen game when it's one of the most next-gen looking titles out there? That's definitely an eyebrow raiser. Notice Hedon agrees here.

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Hedon says Halo looks beautiful but downplays Horizon's visuals by saying "it looks good for a cross gen game". From what we've seen from both, Horizon looks a generation ahead.

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Here's where they really start to get rolling. From visuals discussion to sales to gameplay, you name it.

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Spartan is now so tilted he says he would rather save his what, maximum 50GB worth of data over buying/downloading Horizon? That gave me a good laugh.

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Not sure where Hedon got this from since Halo Infinite and HFW aren't even out yet, lol, but looks like his mind's already made up either way so it probably wouldn't even matter if HFW was the best thing since sliced bread.

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I'll continue in the next post.
 
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Spartan says it's embarassing to compare Halo and Horizon for some reason?

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More downplay from Hedon. Only takes these kinds of jabs at Sony exclusives.

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Horizon Forbidden West gameplay reveal shows the title is one of the most impressive looking next-gen game coming this year. That's a fact. Give credit where credit's due.

No need to bring in Halo and be on the defensive end.
 
Halo infinite campaign will probably be the longest in the series since they are going open world and will probably have other little tasks to complete, if you just do the main story it will probably be standard shooter length we will have to wait and see.
 
What you have seen is irrelevant. So just stop.

It's not irrelevant, what we've seen is what the devs have done up to that point of reveal and how their progress is looking like.

Sure things could change at time of release but we can still discuss their progress up to then if they show it.

Otherwise why show gameplay trailers or reveals before release? It's to help ramp up discussion/hype and show potential buyers of that title what the game will look and play like.
 
Mainly SpartanDawgX1 and Hedon here.

Spartan starts off fine with this:

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Then suddenly brings in Halo? Not sure why. Insecure much?

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Says Halo looks fine but then goes and downplays Horizon's visuals. It's fine if you're not in awe but to say it's a not next-gen game when it's one of the most next-gen looking titles out there? That's definitely an eyebrow raiser. Notice Hedon agrees here.

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Hedon says Halo looks beautiful but downplays Horizon's visuals by saying "it looks good for a cross gen game". From what we've seen from both, Horizon looks a generation ahead.

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Here's where they really start to get rolling. From visuals discussion to sales to gameplay, you name it.

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Spartan is now so tilted he says he would rather save his what, maximum 50GB worth of data over buying/downloading Horizon? That gave me a good laugh.

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Not sure where Hedon got this from since Halo Infinite and HFW aren't even out yet, lol, but looks like his mind's already made up either way so it probably wouldn't even matter if HFW was the best thing since sliced bread.

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I'll continue in the next post.

Don't see anyone saying Halo looks better than Horizon, which is what you said earlier.
 
Mainly SpartanDawgX1 and Hedon here.

Spartan starts off fine with this:

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Then suddenly brings in Halo? Not sure why. Insecure much?

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Says Halo looks fine but then goes and downplays Horizon's visuals. It's fine if you're not in awe but to say it's a not next-gen game when it's one of the most next-gen looking titles out there? That's definitely an eyebrow raiser. Notice Hedon agrees here.

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Hedon says Halo looks beautiful but downplays Horizon's visuals by saying "it looks good for a cross gen game". From what we've seen from both, Horizon looks a generation ahead.

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Here's where they really start to get rolling. From visuals discussion to sales to gameplay, you name it.

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Spartan is now so tilted he says he would rather save his what, maximum 50GB worth of data over buying/downloading Horizon? That gave me a good laugh.

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Not sure where Hedon got this from since Halo Infinite and HFW aren't even out yet, lol, but looks like his mind's already made up either way so it probably wouldn't even matter if HFW was the best thing since sliced bread.

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I'll continue in the next post.
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Don't see anyone saying Halo looks better than Horizon, which is what you said earlier.

Come on, read between the lines.

Hedon saying Halo looks beautiful with an emoji and then saying Horizon looks good for a cross-gen game shows it all.

Spartan saying the game doesn't look next-gen then says Halo looks fine.

It's all there.

Wouldn't be surprised if you don't see it since you're only here to take jabs at Sony too.
 
Halo is what it is at this point. I’m content with what was revealed and any upside to a year of polishing is a added bonus. Halo is certainly not next gen and a reflection of the power of upgraded hardware though. Horizon is also not a next gen game but is a great example of a console punching above its weight as developers maximize its hardware to its fullest.
 
I don't think the discussion was supposed to be a referendum of 343/Halo Infinite, but the fact that people generally are still bothered by the visuals tells me they need to try something new graphics wise.
 
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I don't think the discussion was supposed to be a referendum of 343/Halo Infinite, but the fact that people generally are still bothered by the visuals tells me they need to try something new graphics wise.
And better art design. All those grey pillars aren't really going to light anyones pants on fire

I always felt they would have got more of a pass on the graphics if the overall demo was more impressive. Could have been pandemic related but they didn't even have to do a demo if they weren't able to showcase the game in a better way. Just do a trailer if you need to.
 
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You can only polish a turd so much.
If they had more time or scrapped what was shown and started over(losing xbo support would help)

What is likely is they throw better details on top of what's been shown and going by the constant update pics they keep posting...that's exactly what is happening.

I don't think they should be showing anything until E3 and I guarantee xbotz will praise it's visuals regardless.
Probably, but people need to stop the hyperbole on both sides. Like I said before, Forbidden West pushing boundaries early on is for the best for everyone. Competition yields progress.
 
Makes no difference. Halo has not released. We have not seen any gameplay since the delay. Those are facts. You have nothing to compare to, so, stop.
I don't have to stop lol I am not the one that started it to begin with but the fact is that is what they showed us so until they show something else that's what's out there to represent their game. Maybe in a couple of weeks we'll see something new. It's not going to be a huge difference from what we saw before though, no game ever changes that much with just a 12 month delay. Hopefully they'll show something that takes place at night so the weapon colors pop more on screen and some weather effects are going on etc and it'll look totally different from the last time even if not technically that much better.
 
Also, comparing an okay semi open world game series with outstanding graphics with Halo... f*** off lol
Horizon is totally open world halo is the one that's semi open world lol. and I'm not sure how "semi" that actually is, the people at 343 don't seem to know how to answer the question in a uniformed way. One is asked if it's open world and responds "it's somewhere between what we've done before and open world" then goes on to say it's the biggest one they've done but neither Halo 4 or 5 had particularly long campaigns and the actual playable areas were much smaller than the bungie made games especially Halo 4.
 
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Halo is what it is at this point. I’m content with what was revealed and any upside to a year of polishing is a added bonus. Halo is certainly not next gen and a reflection of the power of upgraded hardware though. Horizon is also not a next gen game but is a great example of a console punching above its weight as developers maximize its hardware to its fullest.
The PS5 is not being "maximized to it's fullest" in a 1st year cross-gen game but the fact that it's looking as good as it does this early is a credit to GG . Neither the PS5 or XSX are going to be pushed to their limit in the first few years and even when we think they have been devs are still going to find ways to impress us just as they always do.
 
When people say open works most people think GTA or Watch Dogs. It’s clearly not that. More likely big sections where the player approaches them how they want.
 
Come on, read between the lines.

Hedon saying Halo looks beautiful with an emoji and then saying Horizon looks good for a cross-gen game shows it all.

Spartan saying the game doesn't look next-gen then says Halo looks fine.

It's all there.

Wouldn't be surprised if you don't see it since you're only here to take jabs at Sony too.

So one saying "fine" and one thinking two screenshots are better is now basically saying that Halo is better visually than Horizon? Are you, maybe, and I mean this respectfully, reading a little more into it than what was actually said? You can't possibly in seriousness believe that argument is any less of a straw man than
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Probably, but people need to stop the hyperbole on both sides. Like I said before, Forbidden West pushing boundaries early on is for the best for everyone. Competition yields progress.
Competition is severely lacking though.

I am the type of Xbox fan who does nothing but hope.
They need to step it up and this is not debatable.

Xbox fanboys who deny this and troll Playstation because of butthurt jealously deserve to get ripped by gamers like myself and Sony ponies.

Sony ponies who give no credit for the improvements that MS has made do as well.
 
And better art design. All those grey pillars aren't really going to light anyones pants on fire

I always felt they would have got more of a pass on the graphics if the overall demo was more impressive. Could have been pandemic related but they didn't even have to do a demo if they weren't able to showcase the game in a better way. Just do a trailer if you need to.

I dunno, watching it, it looked fun. Maybe because the quality of stream hitting my PC wasn't great it didn't look so bad visually at first either (though I'm a pretty poor judge of that in general anyhow). But I was probably also giving it credit, perhaps undeservedly, thinking that it was just organic open-world game play and not a giant set piece.

But I'm kind of with you on the decision on trailer v. demo in this case. Actually, I'm kind of with me:
One thing I'm wondering about - not an excuse especially for Halo since that's MS' own doing, but... what are they demoing and using for dev kits? PCs. What graphics are in the XSX? RDNA 2 with RT cores. How many RDNA 2 graphics cards with RT cores have been released so far? Zero. Might be similar for Sony as well - and it may have been smarter for them to show pre-renders of stuff coming in a couple of years and then focus gameplay on Ratchet (which is their SSD showpiece without need for RT) and GT.

Just a thought that hit me. I think both companies are going to struggle getting the most out of the GPUs at launch and for some ramping up time afterward. Only one decided to go with a Halo-class game at launch, though, and that may end up being a strategic mistake. (Don't tell Shaun I said any of this.)

By not waiting for all the features of RDNA 2, Sony's certainly been able to get up to speed for this gen sooner and the results to date show it. Whether games designed for next gen in a few years can claw that back will be interesting to see, but I'm so rarely right with predictions and calling the Halo as a launch title a strategic mistake is probably the best I've ever done. I promise I'll restore my "all predictions wrong or your money back" normal service shortly. ;)
 
So one saying "fine" and one thinking two screenshots are better is now basically saying that Halo is better visually than Horizon? Are you, maybe, and I mean this respectfully, reading a little more into it than what was actually said? You can't possibly in seriousness believe that argument is any less of a straw man than
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Dude, stop. You know what they are doing and saying in between the lines. You've been here long enough.
 
Some Xbox fans just can't accept that fact or refuse to.

I can accept the fact that Halo's MP aspect will probably dwarf Horizon because that's not Horizon's focus. Just like certain people should accept the fact that Horizon will dwarf Halo in the visuals aspect. Halo will never be on the same level graphics wise as Horizon. The SP will probably also be better on Horizon because again that's their focus. Sony's signature. Great visuals and gameplay combined with an amazing single player story experience.

Xbox fans just need to cope with that.
What Xbox fans? Lol

Hedon is just funkin with you?
 
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Horizon is totally open world halo is the one that's semi open world lol. and I'm not sure how "semi" that actually is, the people at 343 don't seem to know how to answer the question in a uniformed way. One is asked if it's open world and responds "it's somewhere between what we've done before and open world" then goes on to say it's the biggest one they've done but neither Halo 4 or 5 had particularly long campaigns and the actual playable areas were much smaller than the bungie made games especially Halo 4.
I never said anything about halo being open world.
Halo > Horizon zero down syndrome
 
Halo never was a looker, well, except CE. Halo is known for its gameplay and lore, horizon looks great..... That's it.
Halo's lore has been severely lacking since Bungie left. Gameplay is debatable altough going by review scores/sales I am guessing most aren't as satisfied.
Horizon's gameplay is debatable the lore has much,much more potential and it looks great.
 
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