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Even though I like to come to this thread and argue with Val whenever I dont get enough sleep, truth is none of this s*** matters that much. I hope that Microsoft does well enough that they keep supporting Game Pass and don't sell Xbox to Facebook. Unless the delta between the platforms results in considerable gaps in 3rd party games in year 1 like we saw this gen, don't feel like it will impact enthusiasts much. Ease of development is still more important than actual peak potential performance. Speaking to a dev, even with a belief in which one is most powerful, what really matters is what he's capable of doing. Has more to do with tools and development efficinecy than power.
They are just showing the PS5 then so that we know it can run on the lowest common denominatorAnd the demo couldnt even do 4K 60FPS+ lol
They are just showing the PS5 then so that we know it can run on the lowest common denominator
That's the problem right there. It is those using and/or have direct access to the hardware that are saying this, not those outside of it. While you are on the outside looking in, with no access of any kind to that hardware, or even a programmer using that hardware, to tell them that what they are saying or seeing is wrong. What qualifications do you have aside from your own personal PC, which these consoles are obviously not, puts you in a position to refute this?
A lot of these developers are bound by NDA, so there is only so much they can say right now. So instead of assuming what you think you know, just wait it out.
That could be a good thing.
On which platform running Fornite? And does that mean it wasn't very taxing to the system as in it could have done more? If you think about it, no ray-tracing was enabled along with other things.
Dude, a ton of the quotes (maybe even the majority) I've seen were developer reactions. Lots of "will be', "expect", and "should". The UE 5 one is one of the only real concrete quotes I've seen. Beyond that, I haven't seen any that actually compare the two because, believe it or not, one dev is unlikely to work on both systems. They'll be on the xbox or the playstation dev teams.
I see a LOT of positive dev comments about PS5 being extrapolated as being in comparison the Series X.
Did any one of them also have access to the XSX and say that it didn't work there? No. Good night now.
In regards to exactly what: revolutionary? Because that is what i quoted in his post.
In addition to this, both platforms will be capable in their own individual strengths, obviously. It is still early, but the extent of that (how much of what will be sacrificed), or how big of a difference that will impact the game experience, is yet to be told. Right now, both competitors are playing a chess hmatch by revealing what games they have up and operational for launch and a little after or just alpha footage in general. So, because of this there is still a waiting game to be had.
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Did any one of them also have access to the XSX and say that it didn't work there? No. Good night now.
They are 3rd party, of course they did, and if they didn't they had access to those that did. It's very simple, really. I believe i quoted one of them, in fact.
Theres no devs with access to both who've stated a detailed breakdown of the capabilities of both because if they did, they'd be breaking NDA. The only devs who've publicly expressed opinions comparing the 2 in any meaningful way did so at a distance. If they're allowed to speak on details comparing both it means they didn't sign NDAs which means they don't have both dev kits.
And the demo couldnt even do 4K 60FPS+ lol
It was an interactive demo purposely to show what the platform is capable of. That is it. If they didn't show ray-tracing, would you assume it didn't have that as well? It's not really that hard to grasp. Now, if you are purposely looking for something quick to grasp to discredit that situation without attempting to look at the bigger picture, then of course it's going to appear that way.
Is Epic not 3rd party?
You do know that you can say that the platform is revolutionary, without saying the other is bad, right? A number of developers mentioned this in regards to Sony's architecture. One insider, not sure of his affiliation but quite trusted, goes on to compare what he was told of the two designs, NOT their ultimate capabilities, if you will, on how different they were. So again, this is coming from the inside. There are people here looking from the outside and assuming what is on the inside and basing a verdict around that.
I think the people using these machines or have some kind of access to them are very capable of knowing what it is they are actually looking at to justify their response. But, I guess that is a very sensitive subject amongst some individuals around here as it can create an uncertain outlook on things.
Not sensitive to me at all. As I've said, I like to come here and argue when I don't get enough sleep. It's weird therapy. If Xbox was weaker, wouldn't change my feelings about next gen much. Give talented devs good tools and creative freedom. That's what matters most.
...and you made my point. Devs complimenting one is not a shot to the other. I'm hearing more overall compliments regarding general next gen game design possibilites. Devs dont get as excited about the differences in Digital Foundry videos as fanboys do.
Link with Epic saying it couldn't be done?And the demo couldnt even do 4K 60FPS+ lol
I say it can cause I have seen better running on less.
Playing devils advocate here:
You can also say that if it could have it would have run at 60fps.
Lets add 4k while we are at it.
PS5 will have 4K games running on UE5.
Doesn't bother me tbh, they go on sale often. What does make me anxious though, is how much more they'll hide behind microtransactions and lottery wheel spins. It's sad that a game being so great in every other aspect have this kind of gambling aspect through the entire game.
I can see games needing to go up in base price by $10 but when they do that AND have microtransactions etc that's too much. The whole reason I'm ok with the prices going up is to get rid of reliance on microtransactions but it seems like that won't be the case.
Sports games in general have just gone off the deep end with microtransactions. People won't put up with pay to win in FPS games, but it has been in sports games for ages and seems to be the norm. NBA 2k is supposedly even worse than the EA games, which is hard to imagine.
Especially with unboxing videos being so popular, damn people even donate to streamers so they can open card packs.
I would think the price is mitigated by not needing to package and mark up for retail
When it comes to digital yeah for sure although there is still a mark up it just goes to Sony, MS or Nintendo instead of gamestop.
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