The Naughty Dog Agenda
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Dono if he does, it’ll just be interesting to get some more insight from another perspective, especially him being from Australia, since I heard it’s much tougher down there if you are anything other than straight, I guess they’re kinda like the south here in the states.
No a true friend can be like family and in some peoples cases closer.
A true friend if they love you or care about you will continue to do so if you are homosexual,have a drug problem,cheat on your husband/wife,are a liar etc etc.
Yes a TRUE friend can be closer than family, family is chosen for you but friends are in your life because you want them there. Sadly love for family at times feels more like obligation than real love which makes me wonder if it's really love at all but that's another issue lol. Can you be a true friend to someone who you put conditions on? someone who you don't think is equal to you? thinking like "I don't like that you are gay" even though being gay is just what they are regardless of your feelings on it? It's not the same as a drug problem or someone having an affair, you didn't choose to be straight you just are, the same way a gay person is gay. I wish people would realize it's not about their approval it's about accepting that it's just a part of life for some people.
Yes we are friends with people that do things we don't agree with,saying otherwise is a lie or you have fake or weak love as real love is unconditional.
Everything is a choice including our relationships with family and friends and the good and bad things we do...not budging on this.
TRUE friend is now qualifying metric? Come on, man. Maybe for some people it is the bar too far, but this is what I mean by this requirement to embrace. It's not enough that Val gets along and treats people respectfully - it's not enough that he has friends and has involvement/interaction (at whatever level) in his life. He doesn't (I assume) harass, or deny care or services.
He doesn't think it's a positive thing (for whatever reason). It's when he puts his two cents in, And THAT is why he is berated. He didn't agree. Now that's fine. Honestly, hash it out as long as people don't try to negatively affect his life because of is (as happens frequently on a number of issue nowadays- like being blacklisted because you don't think it's ethical to give pre-pubescent children hormone blockers because little Johnny wanted to wear a dress a few times).
He doesn't want to see the expression of it in a franchise he wants to play. The creator has decided to include it in their game, as is THEIR right. He now has to decide if his disagreement is strong enough to overpower the level of discomfort he feels. It really is a case of "don't like, don't buy it". It IS understandable that he wouldn't want to have to make that choice.
I don't care myself. Long as they make everyone a good character I could give two s***s who they want to f***. No doubt the trailer spent a lot time saying HEY HEY Ella is gay look at us give us a cheer we're so progressive. Being gay or straight is a part of who you are it's not who you are. Long as they spent time making a good character who happens to be gay or whatever it's all good but don't make a character gay then worry about making them a good character after the fact.
Sides not like anyone missing much Ella grew up to be kind of ugly.
Sides not like anyone missing much Ella grew up to be kind of ugly.
A true friend to me is someone you can have conversations about people in your life with and not feel like the other person is uncomfortable or looking down on you. Having to avoid talking about parts of your life because the other person doesn't approve doesn't seem like a real friend to me, that seems like someone you can be friendly with, like a co-worker you never see outside of the office but it's not someone I would really call a friend, just someone I know. I don't just call anyone I know a friend though, I know some people are a little more generous with the word.
He doesn't have to embrace people but let's not forget people who think that way try to stop gay people from having the same rights as they do etc. He has already said he's against gay marriage and adoption, so while he may be good to his "friends" on the surface clearly he has some deep negative feelings about them. He would be fine denying them the same right he has to marry or to take in raise and love an unwanted child that would otherwise grow up in foster care or an orphanage. So really it's not about passing some purity test, if he would be willing to deny his "friends" the same rights he has is that really someone you'd call a friend?
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You already equated being gay with drug use and adultery, you clearly don't get that it's a part of who the person is and not just an activity. Being gay isn't something for you to agree or disagree with it's just the way the person is but you don't seem to get that.
You are right about who we allow in our lives being a choice, that being said your sexuality ISN'T a choice, you didn't choose to be straight it just came naturally to you, the same way being gay does to me.
You would think The Last of Us Part 2 would be an Xbox game or something. With the identity crisis and controversy they've got going on over there and everything. 
No, i'm kidding. That was a classic TD jab that people seem to love.
It doesn't f***ing matter whether a character is straight or gay. The fact that it's even up for discussion is ridiculous. The only thing i can't stand more than games having an agenda though? People using that to push their own agenda. Who cares.
No, i'm kidding. That was a classic TD jab that people seem to love.
It doesn't f***ing matter whether a character is straight or gay. The fact that it's even up for discussion is ridiculous. The only thing i can't stand more than games having an agenda though? People using that to push their own agenda. Who cares.
Well, it's according to most gay people. All the gay people I've met have said they've always been gay (although it took some of them a while to work through confusion or denial).
I had a friend come out to me once, as bi, he was hella scared and sweating. But before he did I would try to avoid having him meeting my gay friends because he would just talk so much negativity about people who are. Later he moved and confessed he had a crush on me, I told him “sorry m8, I fancy the tacos and you’ve met my gf”
Great, now I want carnitas tacos
I have alternative life style friends who offered me money and other things to handle my 3rd leg...
Not more than someone who actually lives through the things you only have outside opinions on, do you really think you can make an informed opinion on it?
The choosing to be gay idea idea never made much sense me. Straight people don't choose who they are attracted too. Why would gay people?
You disagree with all of their reports about their own internal experience? Why? What makes you think you know them better than they know themselves?
I'm not being belligerent, it just doesn't make sense. I can see how you might dismiss a particular individual's report about their internal experience -- maybe you think they're deluded or whatever -- but why would you dismiss an entire legion of people, all telling you basically the same thing about how they experience themselves? Why would you think you know their internal experience better than they do?
I agree that you have a right to your reasons, but you haven't given any. I'd be interested to hear what they are.
And even if sexual/romantic attraction were a choice, why would anyone choose to be gay (besides the clothes and parties)? "Stigma and ridicule? Sign me up!"
YES I ABSOLUTELY DISAGREE.
I been taught not to trust feelings and to lean not on my own understanding.(no I don't follow this perfectly nor could anyone)
I trust what I learned over what they think they know.
I have a right to have these views and they have a right to have theirs.
BUT they want me to think what they choose is normal and keep quiet hence them going on and on.
They police that they are right but I am not allowed to say the opposite LOL?
Have you ever spoken to or engaged a flat earther? If so, what was the experience like? Do you notice any similarities between your arguments (above) and theirs?
You can say/think what you want, you have the right to be wrong but the fact that you have been given the proper information and continue to think the way you do means your feelings on the subject aren't based on ignorance which would make them understandable but something else which just makes them sad.
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You have a right to be right and wrong as well as I been saying all along and you continue to police to me that your feelings take precedence over anything that doesn't agree with them but I won't call you ignorant.
Also you know what that something else is and that's sad you feel this way(am I doing this right?)
You have a right to be right and wrong as well as I been saying all along and you continue to police to me that your feelings take precedence over anything that doesn't agree with them but I won't call you ignorant.
Also you know what that something else is and that's sad you feel this way(am I doing this right?)
I'm not policing you, you are free to have your opinions even if they aren't based on facts or logic but rather prejudice and bias. That doesn't make you an evil person or even a bad person but it does show that at least on this subject you are totally closed minded to anything other than your incorrect belief and that is SAD.