Andrew Reiner also writes for Game Informer. His tweets seem like a terrific story but I’m not seeing him go on the record with that story.
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He can't really because he's not gonna give up the names of those devs.
That being said I wish he hasn't said a thing. We're still a year and a half from launch and this kinda s*** brings nothing to the table to be honest. Especially when he can't and won't give concrete details.
I don’t want to pay for a sub I am not going to use. And Phil already said he doesn’t want to shove game pass down our throats and force it on us.
Phil said Scarlett is a year and a half away and even they don’t know how powerful it will be. If MS doesn’t know, devs sure don’t.
hy would you be forced to do anything?
Point is, a low entry price is far more likely to bring back lost consumers and new consumers. That means a sub boost to one or both of their sub services.
That's interesting, he did say that. If you take a look at the next gen thread on ResetEra.... man they all take it as gospel and they claim not much can be done except for a few tweaks here and there. It honestly seems some of them are just talking out of their behinds. With that in mind I don't get Andrew's intentions with leaking that out when specs aren't set in stone yet at all.
And these developers, they are working with kits that could be changed at anytime? How's that work?
It's almost certainly not something the developer has to do, but the people echo create the engines. But is easily too late to see spec changes, which is why the ps4 never got above 4gb ram.
It is called scaling.
The dev kits people have will likely be ballpark systems for the theoreticle power/specs these companies beleive they can hit...but, ghings like clocks speeds, ram amount, etc can be changed. What wont change is the base hardware.
So let's say for example Xbox devkit right now is 10tflops and the PS5's is 11 or 12, MS can just up that? The tricky thing for both of them is it's not like they can look over each other's fences and act on that. However I've had my doubts about that in the past because how did the design of both systems seem so similar? I mean the two different kind of black sides on the top of the consoles.
Tom Warren from The Verge said this on Era, not sure what to make of this.
No idea on price points, and those will fluctuate for months until parts are fully sourced and are being assembled at Pegatron. I believe the spec target is more to align xCloud and console as a unified offering where games will run the same on both.
No idea on price points, and those will fluctuate for months until parts are fully sourced and are being assembled at Pegatron. I believe the spec target is more to align xCloud and console as a unified offering where games will run the same on both.
Theoretically yes...but how much I'm not sure.
But just because a dev kit is more powerful doesn't mean the finished product will be. Honestly, I wouldn't pay attention to all the 'this one is more powerful' talk, it means virtually nothing at this point....these consoles are going to be very similar so not even a big deal if one is a bit more powerful.
Both should be beasts. I'm not really worried about the exact specs.
Sony with slightly more power or slightly less power will still create amazing looking games. Scarlet will produce amazing looking games. I just hope the acquired studios create amazing content.
Sony with slightly more power or slightly less power will still create amazing looking games. Scarlet will produce amazing looking games. I just hope the acquired studios create amazing content.
That is the big thing for Xbox next gen, the exclusives. The hardware should be on par, gamepass is decent, online will be solid, Xcloud good or bad doesn't matter all that much.
If Xbox can get steady stream of quality new exclusives with their new studios then they will bring people to the console. This is the biggest mark and may take a few years to answer.
Real journalists report stories and protect their sources all the time. Instead this not so real journalist sent out a tweet the day of the Scarlett reveal. Color me skeptical about those intentions. If he truly had a story then he would report on it. It’s his job after all.
Wouldn’t MS have a way to peek at Sony’s dev kits?
They could go up to them and say “hey buddy, we want to make Minecraft for you, give us kits”
They could go up to them and say “hey buddy, we want to make Minecraft for you, give us kits”
No. Nothing is set in stone yet. And PS5 being more powerful is bulls*** of the highest order. No one knows that information yet.
Matt said today that taking an "educated guess" he'd give the nod in power to MS, good thing that's all BS of the highest order huh? Seriously though what both companies are targeting may be known but what they actually wind up with won't be known until next year sometime.
It's like trying to decide on whether to go bowling or golfing in April 24 2021 and fighting tooth and nail over whether it is going to rain that day.
Hmmm, looks like the devs are the ones that killed it.
https://segmentnext.com/2019/06/21/...unexpected/amp/#click=https://t.co/JDpJWXyHXG
Xbox Lockhart Shelved After Unexpected Developer Feedback
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Xbox Lockhart is Microsoft’s next-generation console. Lockhart and Xbox Anaconda development is proceeding under the codename “Project Xbox Scarlett.” This is what we knew about the new Xbox consoles for months.
We knew Microsoft is working on two new Xbox consoles but ever since E3 2019 many reports came out saying Lockhart is dead. The toned down version of Xbox Anaconda is no longer in development.
Now, the question is why was Lockhart shelved? Anyone familiar with video game development would understand the baseline. Developers create console games for the base and optimize for the upper tier model.
For example, most video games for One X aren’t made for One X. Developers use Xbox One as the baseline. Games are later optimized for Xbox One X. This process leads to many features never making it to the game. It also limits how far visuals can go. Moreover, the entire process demands more resources and funds from developers.
According to Insider Brad Sams, Microsoft didn’t receive the feedback it expected. Developers used the new Xbox Lockhart as the base and said “hopefully,” games will run better on Xbox Anaconda (now simply known as Xbox Scarlett).
Many developers didn’t have the resources to develop for two machines. It is safe to say many simply didn’t want the hassle.
Halo Infinite – One of the first confirmed cross-gen games
But the major reason for shelving Xbox Lockhart is Project xCloud. Microsoft wished to offer a cheap entry point to the next-generation of gaming. And Project xCloud already does that. Microsoft realized that Xbox Lockhart is stuck in the middle. This realization mixed with unexpected feedback from devs, Microsoft saw the light. Xbox Lockhart is now shelved.
In fact, Phil Spencer has confirmed that there is no second console. Xbox Anaconda is now the only console under Project Scarlett.
But there is something weird about Spencer’s statement. It seems despite reports from many credible sources, Microsoft isn’t ready to confirm the existence of a second console.
The head of Xbox implied that Xbox Lockhart was never a next-generation machine.
https://segmentnext.com/2019/06/21/...unexpected/amp/#click=https://t.co/JDpJWXyHXG
Xbox Lockhart Shelved After Unexpected Developer Feedback
1 day ago
Xbox Lockhart is Microsoft’s next-generation console. Lockhart and Xbox Anaconda development is proceeding under the codename “Project Xbox Scarlett.” This is what we knew about the new Xbox consoles for months.
We knew Microsoft is working on two new Xbox consoles but ever since E3 2019 many reports came out saying Lockhart is dead. The toned down version of Xbox Anaconda is no longer in development.
Now, the question is why was Lockhart shelved? Anyone familiar with video game development would understand the baseline. Developers create console games for the base and optimize for the upper tier model.
For example, most video games for One X aren’t made for One X. Developers use Xbox One as the baseline. Games are later optimized for Xbox One X. This process leads to many features never making it to the game. It also limits how far visuals can go. Moreover, the entire process demands more resources and funds from developers.
According to Insider Brad Sams, Microsoft didn’t receive the feedback it expected. Developers used the new Xbox Lockhart as the base and said “hopefully,” games will run better on Xbox Anaconda (now simply known as Xbox Scarlett).
Many developers didn’t have the resources to develop for two machines. It is safe to say many simply didn’t want the hassle.
Halo Infinite – One of the first confirmed cross-gen games
But the major reason for shelving Xbox Lockhart is Project xCloud. Microsoft wished to offer a cheap entry point to the next-generation of gaming. And Project xCloud already does that. Microsoft realized that Xbox Lockhart is stuck in the middle. This realization mixed with unexpected feedback from devs, Microsoft saw the light. Xbox Lockhart is now shelved.
In fact, Phil Spencer has confirmed that there is no second console. Xbox Anaconda is now the only console under Project Scarlett.
But there is something weird about Spencer’s statement. It seems despite reports from many credible sources, Microsoft isn’t ready to confirm the existence of a second console.
The head of Xbox implied that Xbox Lockhart was never a next-generation machine.
Last year we said consoles, and we’ve shipped a console and we’ve now detailed another console. I think that’s plural. Technically that is plural. Right now, we’re focused on Project Scarlett and what we put on stage.
The console he is referring to is Xbox One S All-Digital Edition. The disc-less console is available in the market. It is hard to digest but if that’s how Microsoft wants to play this what can we do? If Microsoft says there was never a second console, we must take their word.
XB1X sales have definitely helped the Xbox One's image and Xbox's image as a whole. For one the XB1X was built as a Game Console first with very little of its budget used on non-gaming oriented HW. Many people that were not even considering an XB1 have now bought an XB1X and play much of their multi-plats there. For the most part what people love most about the XB1X is the enhanced BC features for old games and best console versions of modern games.
Xbox 1st Party is still MS's biggest weakness when compared to Sony and Nintendo which is something MS has been working on improving.
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A dual sku launch is not dumb if it means the higher end model can be significantly more powerful.
For example a $400 box that aims for 8TF's with HW Ray Tracing and another 14 TF box with the same features at $600 vs a single sku at 11 TF's for $500.
I'd take that $600 box over any of the others.
Agreed. I still wonder if they will try and turn the current X1X into their vision of Lockhart using XCloud to offload game assets, as they attempted to do with CD3.
Then once the price drop for the X comes, they can market it that way.
If that’s even possible...? The tech I mean.
It was dumb, it would cause issues with production, it makes things harder on developers, it confuses the message for marketing, retailers wouldn't have enough shelf space to add 3 new consoles while still selling the old ones, it makes it hard to define what next gen is when you have a less capable machine as your entry point etc. It was one of those things that was overthought, there was no need for that and honestly they should just do the best they can to hit $500, you aren't going to get significantly more powerful for $100 in the same year.
He did? Oh now I kinda want to see the reactions there, lol. Do you have a link to that post or know what page of the thread it is? That thread moves fast.
What if this whole time the lower end nexbox has been the Xbox one x all along, only it’ll be a cheaper slimmer version...call it the one XS.
Maybe add some next gen tech to it too, like a large ssd and mood lighting
Maybe add some next gen tech to it too, like a large ssd and mood lighting
It doesn't matter what Matt says. As far as it goes, no one knows s*** until its officially announced.
Can't believe people are starting this s*** and the consoles are 18 months out. The gaming community can be so petty.
Yeah it's pretty silly regardless of who ends up being right in the end.
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