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I take rumours for what they are.

My expectations for July are the same reasonable expectations I always. NewAAA exclusive IPs, gameplay, great looking games. Plus, for this event, I expect a price.

I wouldn’t expect a price unless Sony have revealed the PS5 price. Phil has already stated they’re going to be flexible with pricing meaning they’re going to see what Sony comes up with first. That’s my take anyway.

Edit: saying that, until prices are confirmed I shouldn’t imagine we’ll be able to pre order so both companies better pull their finger out.
 
I wouldn’t expect a price unless Sony have revealed the PS5 price. Phil has already stated they’re going to be flexible with pricing meaning they’re going to see what Sony comes up with first. That’s my take anyway.

Edit: saying that, until prices are confirmed I shouldn’t imagine we’ll be able to pre order so both companies better pull their finger out.
I do expect a price. Somebody has to go first....and sooner rather than later.
 
Because we are what....5 months from launch. They gotta do pre orders, advertising, etc.

I just looked:

Xbox One pricing was announced June 10, 2013
Xbox 360 pricing was announced August 16, 2005
PS3 pricing was announced May 09, 2006
PS4 pricing was announced June 10, 2013

All released in November. So June does seem common, but not consistent. But with May and June in those, it seems like it should be now.
 
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I just looked:

Xbox One pricing was announced June 10, 2013
Xbox 360 pricing was announced August 16, 2005
PS3 pricing was announced May 09, 2006
PS4 pricing was announced June 10, 2013

All released in November. So June does seem common, but not consistent. But with May and June in those, it seems like it should be now.
It should be now.
 
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That is just nonsense. There is nothing said that doesn't apply to both. So, you think the XSX is going to have long load times? You think the XSX isn't going to load far higher quality textures massively faster than this gen?

They say nothing that is unique to the PS5 SSD.
 
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That is just nonsense. There is nothing said that doesn't apply to both. So, you think the XSX is going to have long load times? You think the XSX isn't going to load far higher quality textures massively faster than this gen?

They say nothing that is unique to the PS5 SSD.
The whole article was about the ps5 SSD.
The PS5 SSD is double the speed of the XSX so they can't be compared/considered the same thing.
The PS5 SSD is so fast they even compared it to the PC in the article.
No mention of the XSX SSD which is comparable to the PC.
 
The whole article was about the ps5 SSD.
The PS5 SSD is double the speed of the XSX so they can't be compared/considered the same thing.
The PS5 SSD is so fast they even compared it to the PC in the article.
No mention of the XSX SSD which is comparable to the PC.
Nobody said anything different.

But doesn't change the fact that what they say is applicable to the XSX SSD. Unless you think what they say only the PS5 could do...which would be hilarious. What they state are just inherant positives to machines built to take advantage of the far greater speeds of an SSD. Near instant load times, check. Faster loading of higher quality textures, check. Generic stuff .
 
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I'm surprised the ps5 even have a GPU and CPU with that otherworldly SSD.
They did have that magical emotion engine and CPU on the ps2 that could launch rockets so I guess the hype should be taken seriously.
 
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I'm surprised the ps5 even have a GPU and CPU with that otherworldly SSD.
They did have that magical emotion engine and CPU on the ps2 that could launch rockets so I guess the hype should be taken seriously.
Yet to see or hear anything actually come of it yet, though. Just vague buzzwords.
 
The whole article was about the ps5 SSD.
The PS5 SSD is double the speed of the XSX so they can't be compared/considered the same thing.
The PS5 SSD is so fast they even compared it to the PC in the article.
No mention of the XSX SSD which is comparable to the PC.
^this is what I love about Val. Never change my friend :)
 
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So the XSX can take its RAM from completely empty to completely full in 4 seconds. The PS5 can do it in 2 second. I know that it doesn't work exactly like this but I think it's good for an example of just how ridiculously fast both SSDs are. Until Sony shows something that they can do with their SSD that can't be done with the XSX SSD, it's all buzz word hype at the moment.

I'm super excited to have these ridiculously fast SSDs in both systems. I think they will be amazing!
 
I think when it comes to the nitty gritty of comparing the capabilities of the 2 consoles, we'll have to wait. I've read conflicting stuff from devs in regards to the I/O. One told me in a Discord that the Velocity stuff was all marketing and that the PS5 (and PC SSDs) could use their drive as virtual memory too in addition to it being faster. When I asked the multiplat dev I sometimes game with about that, he said he couldn't comment. He's under NDA about Velocity. He also said the difference between I/O shouldn't be the focus. So we'll have to wait and see. My laymen, non-developer guess from what I can gather is that whatever bottlenecks the Series X jumps will become the baseline and the PS5 will have slightly better loads and maybe advantages with pop-in (if there's situations where the assets are more than the virtual memory can handle). "If" being the key word. We still don't know what the real world bottlenecks of next gen are. I feel like most devs are just guessing at this point.

I also think that when Microsoft is touting Velocity, it's not to say that the Xbox Series is somehow more capable than the PS5 in terms of I/O. Rather it's to say that the delta between the I/O's doesn't matter due to the virtual ram.

In the end, I don't think it will matter to 99% of the consumers. What could matter is if one console has significantly better frame rates on a consistent basis. I don't know what the exact percentage of gamers who care about frame rate is but for those that do care, they care a lot.
 
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anyway..

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I think when it comes to the nitty gritty of comparing the capabilities of the 2 consoles, we'll have to wait. I've read conflicting stuff from devs in regards to the I/O. One told me in a Discord that the Velocity stuff was all marketing and that the PS5 (and PC SSDs) could use their drive as virtual memory too in addition to it being faster. When I asked the multiplat dev I sometimes game with about that, he said he couldn't comment. He's under NDA about Velocity. He also said the difference between I/O shouldn't be the focus. So we'll have to wait and see. My laymen, non-developer guess from what I can gather is that whatever bottlenecks the Series X jumps will become the baseline and the PS5 will have slightly better loads and maybe advantages with pop-in (if there's situations where the assets are more than the virtual memory can handle). "If" being the key word. We still don't know what the real world bottlenecks of next gen are. I feel like most devs are just guessing at this point.

In the end, I don't think it will matter to 99% of the consumers. What could matter is if one console has significantly better frame rates on a consistent basis. I don't know what the exact percentage of gamers who care about frame rate is but for those that do care, they care a lot.
Ofcourse the others can use their SSDs as virtual memory. This isn't some radical new idea.
 
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