But lets not quote the people who are saying the opposite of what most rumors are saying...Of course...the number of stories=actual facts.
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But lets not quote the people who are saying the opposite of what most rumors are saying...Of course...the number of stories=actual facts.
I didn't say they made hardware...I said they had more experience with it. Inevitably when you develop software you have to have a knowledge of PC parts....which was why the original Xbox was pretty much a PC. This was what I was referring to.
But lets not quote the people who are saying the opposite of what most rumors are saying...
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Jinca, weren't you the same one saying that 5G would be necessary for streaming games to even work just months before this stuff was going to take off? We have 5G now and it seems like you're just moving goal posts at this point. There are way more positive impressions for Xcloud than negative to be sure. Unless you haven't been paying attention. And for crying out loud, you still prance around the fact that Xcloud is an option (a very viable option in fact..) to gaming on console at home. It's always an and/or with you when Microsoft continues telling the idiots of the gaming community that it's "why not both?"MS has a history of trying to tell us what we want vs giving us what we want, who has been asking to play a console game on a phone? the experience is so much worse that way, even if you could get high quality streaming everywhere which is not anywhere near a reality right now the experience would still be so much worse. Mobile games are different for a reason and hooking a controller to a 6 inch screen isn't the same thing as having a console hooked up to a 50+ inch 4K tv. I love how people keep focusing on the mobile aspect yet nobody is even close to pulling that off yet and the infrastructure needed to make that a viable option may take over a decade to become a reality.
Remember how MS and others were trying to push the 2nd screen experience so hard a few years ago? NOBODY cared, nobody wanted it and it was a stupid idea, why would you want to constantly take your eyes off of your tv, put down your controller and check things on a phone? Hell Nintendo created a console around that philosophy and it bombed hard.
I get that and I've tried to understand how MS thinks this will be a great differentiator, I just don't see how it will be. Games will be what ends up moving things long term, these are gaming consoles before anything else and both Scarlett and the PS5 will be close enough in power than any "bragging rights" will be meaningless regardless of who's more powerful so it's going to come down to games. Does anyone believe a casual fan is going to buy a lesser "next gen" machine over a One S or One X if they get that at an even lower price and MS keeps saying they'll continue to release all games on all xbox consoles? what's the point? 60fps? casual gamers don't care or really even know about that kind of thing.
You are right, MS does need to do something to stand out from the pack and I don't blame them for thinking outside of the box but I just don't think offering a true next gen machine and a half step machine at the same time will really be all that beneficial.
So is the mandatory Kinect 3 at least on USB, or some stupid proprietary connection? #Mattrickland
Games with load times anywhere up to a minute will be reduced to mere seconds.
Didnt you say the same thing about Gamepass? Maybe just admit that you're knowledge on how all this works - or gonna work - is beyond you and just let it play out. So far, your batting average is s*** on multiple topics.
Jinca, weren't you the same one saying that 5G would be necessary for streaming games to even work just months before this stuff was going to take off? We have 5G now and it seems like you're just moving goal posts at this point. There are way more positive impressions for Xcloud than negative to be sure. Unless you haven't been paying attention. And for crying out loud, you still prance around the fact that Xcloud is an option (a very viable option in fact..) to gaming on console at home. It's always an and/or with you when Microsoft continues telling the idiots of the gaming community that it's "why not both?"
Its like you're on this repeating loop of responses that dont really apply today. You're stuck in a time when this stuff "wasn't possible" when we are actually seeing it take place in todays gaming climate. And it's going to take off in a huge way come next gen. Fuk me running, even Sony's going down this road of having their games on multiple devices. If you can't see that coming, you're willfully being daft to the topic and the future of gaming. You're still stuck on the hardware metric when CLEARLY ......I mean CLEARLY next gen is going to be about ecosystems and keeping people subscribed. Your entire post seems like you're in denial.
I said a while ago that even though Microsoft has been in second place this gen, they've been rewriting the gaming landscape for next generation the entire time. Now everyone (sony included) is pushing in the same direction. It's coming broski. In many ways its already happening - albeit at a slow,strategic pace - but it's coming. And Microsoft looks to be leading the charge. I guess it's a bad idea until Sony's doing it too?
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Only if they don’t get their messaging clear when they do an official reveal.This kind of confusion is going to last, I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped selling the One X as it no longer would serve a purpose and it'd be priced too closely to lockhart. Retailers aren't going to want to stock 5 consoles anyway and the One S and the all digital sell better than the One X so it only makes sense. If I were Sony I'd stop selling the pro as well, no reason for it and it doesn't sell as well as the base PS4.
This kind of confusion is going to last, I wouldn't be surprised if they stopped selling the One X as it no longer would serve a purpose and it'd be priced too closely to lockhart. Retailers aren't going to want to stock 5 consoles anyway and the One S and the all digital sell better than the One X so it only makes sense. If I were Sony I'd stop selling the pro as well, no reason for it and it doesn't sell as well as the base PS4.
Dude, no. They're still in beta phase and the impressions have been phenomenal. I've been following very closely for a few weeks now. And this is only the beta and it's improving vertical quickly.Obviously you don't know anything about 5G other than it's being rolled out slowly, read up on how poorly it performs in real life vs the hype that the cell companies were putting out there before launch. If you are near a tower and outside you'll be fine but the signal doesn't travel very far so they are going to need to build out thousands of towers which makes it cost prohibitive so good luck seeing it cover as many areas as 4G, also even if they were able to do that the signal doesn't penetrate through walls well, it's flawed technology.
Xcloud is streaming is 720p right now and even MS admits it's running into some issues and that's totally fine because it's in it's testing phase it's not in it's final form so we'll see how it turns out but what's the point of streaming at home? you'll get an inferior experience to owning a piece of local hardware. Gaming isn't like streaming a movie, if the res just dropping was all you had to worry about that would be an annoyance but you could get over it, when it comes to games more than just the res would drop though and it will impact gameplay.
If they want to offer it as an option and not a replacement that's totally fine but when people say that they think streaming will be just as good as on hardware or that they would rather play a streaming gaming system than have a console I think they are trying too hard to be a cheerleader and not thinking more about what their own experience will be. Also let's not forget right now they seem to be focused on mobile vs streaming at home and carrying around a controller in your pocket to play console games the way they are designed to be played on a 6 inch screen running at a lower native res than your phone can output is hardly going to be ideal. They want to sign people up to another service, they are a service based company but this isn't a service I've heard people crying out for.
I've said in the past that power differentials won't make a difference next gen because they'll be so close, hell I've said it a few times in the last few posts, Digital purchases and BC are going to be a fairly big thing in keeping people in either the PlayStation ecosystem or Xbox ecosystems when the new gen comes. In the past we could all just go trade in all of our old games towards new hardware, now a large chunk of people are buying all digital and they have games that they'll just lose if they don't stick with their current console of choice. Streaming to your phone etc isn't going to do a whole lot one way or the other and if MS doesn't come up with a lot of high quality 1st party games it's not going to bring new people over regardless of what sub services they offer.
Dude, no. They're still in beta phase and the impressions have been phenomenal. I've been following very closely for a few weeks now. And this is only the beta and it's improving vertical quickly.
Game streaming on Xcloud is definitely a huge deal that alot of people are looking forward to trying out. As I understand it, Xcloud is shooting for 1080p when streaming to mobile phones and other devices.