Analyst predicts PS5 in 2018
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For some reason I was thinking this was 2018! I think it could happen. It was an obvious clickbait article though. Whatever the case, bring me to PC ultra settings at 4K. Please. I want the graphics!!!!! The Pro gave me a taste of what Scorpio can do. This was the jump I was hoping for a few years ago when both launched new consoles.
C'mon you know it not 2018, Trump hasn't been impeached yet
I'm perfectly happy with my Pro for now but a 10 TF console wouldn't piss me off in 2018 either, that would pretty much guarantee native 4K for all games with max settings. I wouldn't call it PS5 though unless they plan on moving on from this gen and launching games that only work on that console. If the games are still going to have to work on the PS4/Pro they should call it something else, rumor is it'll be backwards compatible with PS4 but if it were to launch and still had the mandate for no exclusive games then it'd be a waste to call it a new gen IMO.
I'm expecting a new console from them every three years, going forward, with games of the previous console being played on the new one and the games on the new console will be compatible with the one before. There may be exclusive games to the next console, but what I wrote above, is how they'll be in the future. How it is on iOS devices, PC's, etc., but a narrower window of compatible hardware.C'mon you know it not 2018, Trump hasn't been impeached yet
I'm perfectly happy with my Pro for now but a 10 TF console wouldn't piss me off in 2018 either, that would pretty much guarantee native 4K for all games with max settings. I wouldn't call it PS5 though unless they plan on moving on from this gen and launching games that only work on that console. If the games are still going to have to work on the PS4/Pro they should call it something else, rumor is it'll be backwards compatible with PS4 but if it were to launch and still had the mandate for no exclusive games then it'd be a waste to call it a new gen IMO.
I get what you mean, I just hope if a console that is 10 TF is released it's not mandated that any new games launching for it have to work on a 1.8 tf machine, seems like that'll keep the new one from being fully exploited. Now the Pro becoming the base console and the new one taking over makes a bit more sense since it's just over twice as strong.
I actually think it would start with the next console, but I can see it starting with the Pro, but I think the new console's architecture will be too different to allow it to happen.
Scorpio doesn't because it's not anything to be excited about, it's more about fake 8.4tf and fake 4k.
Heck, if you can parallelize your operations well enough you can pull off over 128TFs at single-bit accuracy. (This would of course require relaxing the defintion of FLOP to the point of an operation targeting a single bit inside a float/double as a floating point operation, but the definition is already strained beyond credulity so what's the heck).
I was using the 16 bit number and said that if they can do 1 16 bit instruction, they could do 16 1-bit instructions using the same data, and scaled it up thusly. It was not intended to be rigorous, accurate, or really anything other than dad joke level of funny.
There will never be pro multiplatform game that outperforms Scorpio in any area performance or resolution. Xbox one outperformed Ps4 a few times, but the difference here is greater and can't be disputed, massive RAM advantage, big gpu advantage, and a notable cpu increase. Ps4 did not have that over Xbox one.
After it was patched they were pretty much the same or the PS4 actually had a small advantage, from what I've read the X1 version framerate became less stable as other things were fixed. It also was 1080p on PS4 and used dynamic resolution on X1 that at times with nothing going on it could reach 1080p but was mostly 900p.
I'm not going to argue the 8.4tf thing because while that may be true if you are only using 16bit operations that's not how games are being made right now. I don't think it's a useless feature though, if devs actually use it they can probably stretch performance quite a lot I would guess from the little bit I've read about it. If it wasn't a feature worth having AMD wouldn't be putting it into their cards this year, again it's all about devs actually make use of it that'll be the issue. I don't think Scorpio is missing it because it's not worth having, they probably didn't feel the need to include it because the GPU fits what they want to do as is.
Battlefield one as well too as far as frame rate goes. Both counsols are using load based resolution . Obviously the PlayStation 4 runs on the higher side , but at the cost of frames per second.
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Yeah, I was just poking holes in an argument. Given if Scorpio goes full 4K and Pro does fauxK, the Pro will probably have better performance.
We'll see, I think some people are going a bit overboard on Scorpios capabilities. It will be the most powerful console when it launches there is no doubt about that but it's also aiming for something higher than PS4 Pro was so it's going to need the extra power, native 4K doesn't come cheap.
I think you underestimate what the system will do for checkboard solutions though. There is no mandate on 4k for developers, MS already said that.
Also what are these overboard capability posts specifically? We had a forum thread about expectations and most agreed here the system was a 4/checkboard machine, nothing crazy was even mentioned there other than some joke votes. Not seeing what you mean at all, even here where its xbox nation.
Some here are calling it a next gen machine, some here are saying a jaguar with modifications isn't a jaguar etc. MS keeps saying "4K no excuses" so while I agree with you 100% that checker boarding with higher levels of detail would be better than going just for native 4K it seems that MS is focusing on 4K, they are also likely to be the only dev that really tries to push the hardware for a while so take that as you will. Also have they said if checker boarding is built into the hardware? it is on the Pro, devs still have some control with it so that's why some games do it better than others but it doesn't take much to do it..
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This I don't doubt but that's more because quite a few of Sony's studios have proven to have the ability to push the art and tech together in a way that I haven't seen an MS studio do yet.
MS has little power over what devs decide are the best visual/performance settings
One thing about scorpio, it isn't a next gen machine, but for Xbox loyal it is a MASSIVE jump over xb1. The jump from ps4 to pro is pathetic by comparison.
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How do you know that for certain?
When was the last time MS had this much of a technical advantage?
Fake 4K and real 4K won't yield much of a difference,XB hasn't been know for best visuals in a long time,not every game will be true 4K and finally Scorpio will be held back by the XBO.
For Scorpio to make a significant visual impact over Pro they would be better off not running true 4k and instead focus its horsepower on making better graphical assets.
I have it for my pro as well. Played all the single player missions on it . It looks great . Even down sampled to 1080p on my gaming monitor . I just do all of my competitive gaming for bf1 on xbox because thats where my clan is set up along with clan matches. Also my friends that I have gamed with since battlefield 3 play Xbox as well . I also have to have my elite controller for any competitive shooter . I'm 10 levels away from hitting max level . After that I will play more on the PS4 pro version for causaul pup play . Already ordered a scuff controller for it so I can have my paddles .Thankfully on the Pro it's pretty much a locked 60 fps