Black Panther Movie

I personally have a problem going to see a movie that was made to appease a race, be it black or white. I have no desire to see Black Panther so that black people are represented. Just like if it were White Panther, and was to represent white people. I wouldn't want to see it.

I want to see movies to enjoy them, and not have to worry about a political agenda such as a race. White to be white or black to be black. I saw the previews for this movie, and I knew nothing about a Black Panther. I just assumed it was a marvel comic book that had a black lead and it looked good. And that works for me. But if it was intentionally created for the purpose of black (or white), then I have no desire. Because now when I watch the movie, I will sit there and try to read too much into the agenda, instead of enjoying super powers.

If Spiderman was black, then that's cool. But if Spiderman was originally white, don't go and make him black to appeal to subset of consumers. Just keep things as they were. Now, going forward, if you want to create all new characters, black, white, asian or whatever, boom! Do it. Do it because the lead is a good lead, do it because it fits. Don't do it to create an equal % just for the sake of equal percent.

I guess I am too much of a simpleton, and I just look at everyone as an equal.
I could smell it on you! You always hated vibranium and sucked adamantium's big toe.
 
Of course the race of the cast should be mentioned in a movie where race plays an important role. If it makes people uncomfortable then they should look in a mirror as to why.


Doesn't make me uncomfortable.

Just when a review spends more time talking about the colour of the casts skin than the actual film then somethings wrong.
 
Doesn't make me uncomfortable.

Just when a review spends more time talking about the colour of the casts skin than the actual film then somethings wrong.

The media tends to focus on these kind of things.

It's an important movie with a bunch of messages without being preachy..and yes, it's important because of the color of the casts skin..it's unfortunate, but that's where we're at (and you can blame hollywood for that). It has great characters and it's a fun movie delivered by an excellent cast.

The reviewers may be stuck on the extra cheese on the dish..but the dish is simply delicious.

I'm going to eat, ehrm..I mean, watch it a second time next week.
 
As I said it's an ok movie but not great. Not even marvels best.
 
Doesn't make me uncomfortable.

Just when a review spends more time talking about the colour of the casts skin than the actual film then somethings wrong.

I doubt you read a review that did that. You have just decided that it shouldn't even be talked about at all. And yeah we should be at a point where a movie like this is not a big deal because the cast is mostly black but we aren't and if you want to blame someone blame Hollywood.

And you weren't the one who I think is made uncomfortable by this.
 
Just got home from watching this, it was great.

Man, felt bad for Killmonger even though he was a monster. Dude was right, but approached everything completely wrong.

The intro scene was way too dark and when the shooting happened, it was blinding haha. Also the quick cut fight scenes are always one of my biggest pet-peeves when it comes to action movies. The fight scenes could have been filmed better.
 
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Just got home from watching this, it was great.

Man, felt bad for Killmonger even though he was a monster. Dude was right, but approached everything completely wrong.

The intro scene was way too dark and when the shooting happened, it was blinding haha. Also the quick cut fight scenes are always one of my biggest pet-peeves when it comes to action movies. The fight scenes could have been filmed better.

Some of the most balanced fight scenes being close, but not to close up was the original Bourne Identity and I would really like to see Doug Liman try approaching the superhero genre. He also did a fantastic job handling Edge of Tomorrow.
 
Some of the most balanced fight scenes being close, but not to close up was the original Bourne Identity and I would really like to see Doug Liman try approaching the superhero genre. He also did a fantastic job handling Edge of Tomorrow.

The crazy thing is, imo, the marvel tv shows at time have better shot fight scenes then the big blockbusters. Like I get that there is way more CG to take into account in the blockbusters, but still, you think they could do a better job haha.

I get that they want to show the angles from both sides, but it could be done so much better haha.

Agents of shield had one of the best single shot fight scenes.



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Not marvel, but Into the Badlands some better shot fight scenes too imo.
 
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Some of the most balanced fight scenes being close, but not to close up was the original Bourne Identity and I would really like to see Doug Liman try approaching the superhero genre. He also did a fantastic job handling Edge of Tomorrow.

Also The RAID 1 and 2! Awesome fight scenes.
 
Just watched the movie. With a simple and predictable plot, and a lack of real immersion into the technological advances of Wakanda, it was not amazing, but it was fun to watch. Besides that however, I see that this film has a message far deeper than any MCU movie.

Michael B. Jordan and Andy Serkis were mesmerizing to watch. They stole every scene. Most of the action scenes were great, especially when Black Panther is wrecking stuff.

The setting of real African cultural references were positively interesting and added necessary depth to the movie because as I mentioned, the plot was too thin and done before. Reminded me a lot of Braveheart, but it could have been better because we're talking about super heroes and science fiction.

Additionally, this didn't feel like it was a part of the MCU. It felt too detached. I feel like Ant-Man can get away of being detached from the MCU because he doesn't represent an entire world power like Black Panther does. There needed to be more of a mesh connecting the movie to the grander scheme of things.

Lastly, the references to black Americans today suffering the effects of slavery and colonialism were powerful. Combined with the African cultural displays, the movie portrays a message that American blacks whose ancestors were brought to America as slaves have been robbed of a remarkably priceless part of their lives: their African heritage and culture. Because this film carries this message, it is clear why it resonates so much with audiences, and why it is culturally more impactful than any other MCU movie.
 
I wonder how closely it sticks to the comics and how much artistic license Coogle had?

I don't know anything about the character.

I never read the comics, I do have the dvd of the animated avengers movie centered around Black Panther though an it's pretty good.
 
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It must at least be better than The Pink Panther

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I wonder how closely it sticks to the comics and how much artistic license Coogle had?

I don't know anything about the character.

The most important things about Black panther made it into the movie. However, they changed a lot of stuff about the characters, tribes and simplified to make it work for the movie. Everett Ross brought most of the comedy during the Priest comics run. Nakia was also part of the Dora Milaje and the relationship between her and T'Challa was quite different in the comics.

Shuri: in the comics atm she has mystical powers while in the movie she's way younger and all about tech. I'm glad they added the mysticism and Bast, because that's an important part of BP and Wakanda. T'Challa is able to converse with all the past Black Panthers thus gaining their knowledge and experience.

Black Panther is difficult to fit into the MCU, so I think it's impressive they made it work the way they did. It has the same issues as Doctor Strange which should've been WAY more over the top and fantastical but they played that one quite safe.

In the Black Panther comics

Killmonger also beat T'Challa in combat, but won by striking him while he was distracted. He also threw him from a waterfall if I recall correctly. Killmonger died when he ate the heartshaped herb to become the new BP. His body rejected it. Not everyone is fit to be Black Panther and rule over Wakanda, no matter how strong they are.
 
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Point still stands, it’s a marvel movie with a soundtrack.
I guess, my main point being that I doubt Black Panther will be running a soundtrack like that, as it's really not the style anymore to just paste and glue music into a movie. GotG had it because it literally plays into the main characters origins and what helps define him as a individual vs Iron Man showing up at AC/DC concert because it's super cool, and the movie studio probably gets some kind of kickback.
 
Also The RAID 1 and 2! Awesome fight scenes.
TBH, Raid is up there as having some of the best choreography I've ever seen on film. The amount of talent in that stunt studio is absolutely mind boggling to me. Most people working action scenes probably aren't that level of skill if I'm being honest.**looks at Iron Fist**
 
TBH, Raid is up there as having some of the best choreography I've ever seen on film. The amount of talent in that stunt studio is absolutely mind boggling to me. Most people working action scenes probably aren't that level of skill if I'm being honest.**looks at Iron Fist**

IDD but sometimes its not just about the choreography. you could have jet li vs Donnie yen and have the most beautiful martial arts fight ever BUT if shot with bad angles and edited wrong it could be a train wreck THEN you have a basic fight with 2 guys just throwing jabs, nothing else, just jabs and shot well, edited nice with rack focus, slow mo sections, ramped moves, zooming in and out etc and it could look amazing.

i agree about Iron Fist, that show should have had awesome fight scenes and i know the stunt team and they are very good. i spoke to the stunt coordinator about it and he said they had their hands tied. they shot some great stuff and the director wanted to shoot it his way and he didn't understand action so it came out like that.

then onto a show like 'into the badlands' where Deedee (who was Jet Li's stunt double for years and Yuen Woo Pings main action choreographer) and the hong kong team made the action look great with both nice choreo and shot and edited well.
 
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