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If someone does your job better than you and/or for less money, they will take your job.

A company that constantly threatens outsourcing is bluffing. If they have someone better, you'd be gone already.

When I work for those kinds of companies, I have no worries about getting outsourced, because I'm already looking for other work.

This idea of "be thankful you even have a job" is something that is drilled into workers to keep them from fighting back. The realty is in most cases, anyone can quit or be fired with short notice (2 weeks here in the US, not sure what it is elsewhere).
You must not work for big multinational corporations. Outsourcing (either internally or externally) is massive in tech companies. You may be just lucky your company isn't one of them.
 

Good intentions and the bottom business line rarely play well together. They do reportedly look after their staff so having to crunch the hours to deliver hopefully will result in well compensated staff and a good game.
 
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Adrian Chmielarz Comments on Crunch in CD Projekt RED

Adrian Chmielarz, well-known Polish game developer, currently working at The Astronauts, decided to comment on the crunch at CD Projekt RED. Among other things, he criticized people who are too eager to criticize the devs of The Witcher and Cyberpunk.


Interesting read. 2 CD Project Red employees commented as well; composer Marcin Przybylowicz and Lukasz Szczepankowski, a tech specialist

Marcin Przybylowicz:
And why do you assume that they [the bosses - editorial note] do not crunch? From the content of the question, I understand that you put forward a thesis that they happily disappear at 4 p.m., and that their slaves continue to crunch?

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It amuses me how - with a puzzling regularity - so many people worry about the welfare of my person and the folks at CDPR; how to run such projects, how to change mine and others' world, except they obviously have no idea what it really looks like.

Lukasz Szczepankowski:

I can only confirm what Adrian Chmielarz wrote. Even if it comes to the situations he describes, my experience shows that there is relative top-down solidarity in game dev, regardless of the position in the company. I must disappoint you. Game dev managers are not proverbial capitalists - exploiters who count their cash while smoking a cigar and occasionally take a look at the oppressed developers (however picturesque this vision may sound).




 
None of what they said change the point of Developers suffered crunch. I seen only can endue a few min of a youtuber attacking people who call out for crunch saying they just want to attacked CR Projekt for whatever reasons.

That's like the Twitter line of argument. If you criticize someone, it must be because you hated them or you are ???ism & not because of the thing, actions you criticize them for. "It's just an excuse!"

shocking I know, you can like the dev, the game & still criticize them.
 
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None of what they said change the point of Developers suffered crunch. I seen only can endue a few min of a youtuber attacking people who call out for crunch saying they just want to attacked CR Projekt for whatever reasons.

That's like the Twitter line of argument. If you criticize someone, it must be because you hated them or you are ???ism & not because of the thing, actions you criticize them for. "It's just an excuse!"

shocking I know, you can like the dev, the game & still criticize them.

Oh I agree that they are certainly not above criticism, especially given how meat grindery the video-game industry seems to be. It just interesting to see what employees and a fellow Polish dev opinion on the whole thing is.
 
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CD Project does NOT seem like a fun place to work. But if we're being honest, what AAA game studio is?
 
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I took leave for 2 weeks from Nov 23-4th Dec for Cyberpunk. If you are wondering why I didn't take leave starting the 19th. Well, I figured I may need 2-4 days to download cyberpunk. So taking leave the following week is a better idea.
 
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CD Project does NOT seem like a fun place to work. But if we're being honest, what AAA game studio is?

Who knows? They aren't slaves. Not sure what the ratio between the positive and negative positions are. Nor do I care.

They dont have to work there, and if something illegal is happening let those involved take action if it's so bad. This contextless warring on behalf of others drives me nuts.

I'm sure they can find far less interesting work out there that doesn't crunch.
 
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Do you know what IT people call "toxic IT managers?" - IT Managers. It is like saying "electronic video game console". It is redundant and unnecessary. Of course it is electronic.
 
I see, another delay huh. Well, that just opened up more gaming possibilities for me that I had put on hold in favor of Cyberpunk.
 
I probably wasn't going to play it for a bit anyway, but a delay after going gold is sort of weird. I was probably going to spend time in AC anyway and wait for a next gen upgrade anyway.

I'm thinking I will wait a bit for reviews and comments anyway just to be safe. Getting a funny vibe from this game.
 
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