Europe - In or Out

The Leave campaign was based on lies, misinformation and FUD.

The back pedaling has already begun - Nigel Farage now says the £350 mil savings from Brexit that will be pumped into NHS is a mistake.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-admits-wont-extra-8271594

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TheGeneral said:
The Leave campaign was based on lies, misinformation and FUD.

The back pedaling has already begun - Nigel Farage now says the £350 mil savings from Brexit that will be pumped into NHS is a mistake.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/nigel-farage-admits-wont-extra-8271594

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Of course it was. ukip has lead the British down the garden path and for better or worse, they now have to eal with the new reality. And all those right wing leave campaigners will now not have a European scapegoat when the UK continues to have economic difficulty in years to come.

I really hope it works out for the best myself. Maybe this will make Europe take it's disgruntled member states more seriously now.
 
Even if the UK isn't part of the EU won't they still set up trade deals and other things that keep it all pretty much business as usual? There was a financial "expert" on a news radio show talking about that here in California today. He said it'd end up being a lot like the US and the way we deal with Canada and Mexico. We aren't in any union with them but we deal with them almost like we were.
 
JinCA said:
Even if the UK isn't part of the EU won't they still set up trade deals and other things that keep it all pretty much business as usual? There was a financial "expert" on a news radio show talking about that here in California today. He said it'd end up being a lot like the US and the way we deal with Canada and Mexico. We aren't in any union with them but we have deal with them almost like we were.
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The agreements of countries in the WTO will still hold. The really issue is around tax base (public and corporate), visas (public & corporate) and institutional investments from hedge funds and captial market banks, etc. If your a UK citizen living in Europe, whats going to change. Likewise if your a Europeam citizen living/working in the UK, that's likely to change as well.
 
D-V-ANT said:
The agreements of countries in the WTO will still hold. The really issue is around tax base (public and corporate), visas (public & corporate) and institutional investments from hedge funds and captial market banks, etc. If your a UK citizen living in Europe, whats going to change. Likewise if your a Europeam citizen living/working in the UK, that's likely to change as well.
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So things will change for 70% of the UK population :grin::grin::grin::grin:
 
D-V-ANT said:
Of course it was. ukip has lead the British down the garden path and for better or worse, they now have to eal with the new reality. And all those right wing leave campaigners will now not have a European scapegoat when the UK continues to have economic difficulty in years to come.

I really hope it works out for the best myself. Maybe this will make Europe take it's disgruntled member states more seriously now.
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Agreed.
 
Thats what I said. EU need "hard love". They either have to start thinking better for the EU citizens, or face more BRexit for other nations. I will be fine with wither EU become better, or dismantled.
 
The Wolf King said:
Bit by bit the lies will come out and those that voted leave will start complaining. Well sorry you lost that right.
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I think you will find that most leave voters voted that way because they want change. Not because of false promises or exaggerated claims by the leave campaign.

It seems this message from the masses is getting lost.
 
I'm still trying to figure out what changes and why there's now the typical panic in the markets? Media outlets are having a field day with the doom and gloom.
 
menace-uk- said:
I think you will find that most leave voters voted that way because they want change. Not because of false promises or exaggerated claims by the leave campaign.

It seems this message from the masses is getting lost.
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I hope that's the case because from the conversations I've had at work today there is pretty much just one reason
 
Can someone give me Cliff's Notes about this whole deal as I haven't paid much attention to it? I hate the stupid name "Brexit." Is this a f***ing stupid "celebrity" couple?
 
Voted out. I want my children to be able to vote in and vote out the people who run the country. We're in charge of our own destiny once again. 23/6/16 UK iindependence day.
Nothing against our European neighbours, I look forward to travelling throughout Europe again and enjoying the different cultures, I just think we should govern ourselves.
We should be able to work together and trade together without all being governed by a European superstate.
 
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Two Pennys Worth said:
Voted out. I want my children to be able to vote in and vote out the people who run the country. We're in charge of our own destiny once again. 23/6/16 UK iindependence day.
Nothing against our European neighbours, I look forward to travelling throughout Europe again and enjoying the different cultures, I just think we should govern ourselves.
We should be able to work together and trade together without all being governed by a European superstate.
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Have you done any background research on it or are you just supporting the flag waving rethoric of ukip? I'm asking out of curiosity and I'm not trying to bait you into anything. And I say that because you said it's now UK Independence Day which is just kind of silly.
 
you only have to look at Norway to see what can go wrong by not being a member of the EU.
Norway rejected EU membership in its own 1994 referendum the country had to make deals and compromises to have access to the "single market" trade zone for which it pays heavily both in money and by allowing free movement of people and capital.

it also means they have to follow certain EU laws and have no say at all in any of the decisions the EU makes. so if you voted out thinking this guarantee's the UK will have control over its immigration policies I wouldn't bet on it.

I voted in because I would rather our country have a seat at the table and some influence with these decisions then to end up like Norway and have no say what so ever.
 
Plainview said:
It can still be overturned from what I've read.
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Well no. It's not that it can be overturned. It's more that it hasn't been enacted formally yet. Article 50 of the EU constitution is what allows a member state to leave. Once that is envoked there is no going back. That hasn't happened yet and David Cameron has refused to envoke it and resigned instead. It'll be three months before a new leader is in place. It'll be up to them to then being the process of article 50.
 
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