Europe - In or Out
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It was always going to be tight. The remain camp trying to move the goalposts and making up what constitutes a valid outcome is laughable. Get over it, there won't be another referendum, not for another forty years anyway.
This Brexit vote is just part of a larger trend of the British Empire breaking up since the end of World War 2. Eventually the remains of the U.K. and what looks to be England will become a U.S. state.
Wow. Never knew the UK even had this EU referendum vote until the past few days.
It'll be interesting how it all pans out. People forecast it will hurt England in the short term big time, but long term is not known. Heck the markets sunk like a rock all over the world. Most people's portfolios probably dropped 3% alone in one day. I was lucky though, my portfolio dropped literally.... $34. Yup, $34. I have a bunch of boring defensive stocks that barely moved. Some even went up!
The vote was so close too. Almost 50/50. So if this thing goes out and the UK goes into the shytter there will be LOTS of people pointing fingers and blaming each other as half the population voted to exit.
Quebec had a similar vote to separate from Canada. Close vote too... about 50/50 as well, but the vote was in favour of staying in Canada. Since then, things have been fine.
So it goes to show, don't act too hasty and run for the hills.
It'll be interesting how it all pans out. People forecast it will hurt England in the short term big time, but long term is not known. Heck the markets sunk like a rock all over the world. Most people's portfolios probably dropped 3% alone in one day. I was lucky though, my portfolio dropped literally.... $34. Yup, $34. I have a bunch of boring defensive stocks that barely moved. Some even went up!
The vote was so close too. Almost 50/50. So if this thing goes out and the UK goes into the shytter there will be LOTS of people pointing fingers and blaming each other as half the population voted to exit.
Quebec had a similar vote to separate from Canada. Close vote too... about 50/50 as well, but the vote was in favour of staying in Canada. Since then, things have been fine.
So it goes to show, don't act too hasty and run for the hills.
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Menace,
So in your opinion:
1. Why did the UK even bring forth a vote?
2. Why do you think so many people want out? Has the UK been getting trashed financially or politically that the people need to get out and be on their own?
3. What do you think will happen to everyday life? Do you think it will really change that much? Or are people overreacting?
4. And most importantly, how will it affect the price of games!?!?!
I know the UK has that expensive VAT tax, so do you think goods will go lower or higher or stay the same?
So in your opinion:
1. Why did the UK even bring forth a vote?
2. Why do you think so many people want out? Has the UK been getting trashed financially or politically that the people need to get out and be on their own?
3. What do you think will happen to everyday life? Do you think it will really change that much? Or are people overreacting?
4. And most importantly, how will it affect the price of games!?!?!
I know the UK has that expensive VAT tax, so do you think goods will go lower or higher or stay the same?
Menace,
So in your opinion:
1. Why did the UK even bring forth a vote?
2. Why do you think so many people want out? Has the UK been getting trashed financially or politically that the people need to get out and be on their own?
3. What do you think will happen to everyday life? Do you think it will really change that much? Or are people overreacting?
4. And most importantly, how will it affect the price of games!?!?!
I am not a political person and usual stay away for it and all the nonsense that surrounds it. However, I would say it is too early to tell. Nobody really has answers because nothing is really known.
We haven't even left the EU yet, and a lot of what happens next will depend on the deals made in the exit process. That is assuming we even leave the EU. We have a huge petition asking for a re-vote. We have MPs calling for an EU leave block.
The most important thing for us right now is the stabalization of the markets and currency.
So yeah, I would say that right now there is a lot of overreacting. People are assuming that visas will be put back into practice. People are assuming we will have a significant inflation increase. People are assuming that migration will just end. People are assuming too much.
The changes to everyday life will be minimal in the short term. Obviously currency issues will mean prices for things like holidays will increase, but even with the sharp tumble the pound saw on Friday doesn't increase prices all that much. And we must remember that the pound has recovered slightly since then.
I think, for me, the disappointment about all this is the handling of the campaigns from the leave and stay groups. Even more disappointing is how the EU has reacted. This should have been a wake up call for them, but it seems like their ignorance and will to ignore the people will continue. The fact that they are so worried about a domino effect should tell them everything they need to know, but ignorance might prevail yet again.
I also think all this could have been avoided if David Cameron stopped trying to play both sides and took a strong stance as pro-EU.
EU bullying tactics is to try to prevent more from leaving. EU failure to care about the common folks. The Refugee crisis expose the issue. Everyone is pushing blame on one another. There is no leadership, forcing individual members like Hungary to take things into their own hand.
In my view, its time British show characters, & push to show how strong you can be as a nation.
In my view, its time British show characters, & push to show how strong you can be as a nation.
Much duping it seems.....
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/brexit-broken-promises/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2016/06/27/news/economy/brexit-broken-promises/index.html
It's a sweeping mandate or needs a recount, depending on which 50 you hang your hat in.
It just shows how much thought the leave voters put into it.
I mean all main leave campaigners are all pro migration, so why they thought there would be huge changes in immigration is beyond me.
Same goes for the whole £350 million for the NHS. It was pretty obvious the NHS couldn't have all of it and that what ever money that was saved would be used to subsidize as many losses as possible....like all that money the poorest regions in Wales were getting from the EU.
And you would have to be a complete moron to think the economy would be fine after a vote to leave.
The more I've been reading about it the more laughable the 'exit' people have become.
If the vote went the other way and we had the same microscope out then we would see lots of silly stuff from the stay side too.
It just seems that the things that people were hoping would happen really aren't a reality. Hope it all works out for the best for all of you.
It will be fine in the long run. There are way too many scare stories and headlines about but this is not the end of the world.
The UK politicians did a disservice to country scheduling a vote of this magnitude. In the U.S. we would never have a single issue, up or down national vote. Our form of democracy certainly has its issues but our founding fathers were smart enough to put in checks against the tyranny of the majority in being reckless, selfish, irresponsible citizens. A policy as big as Brexit can certainly get through the system but it requires working it hard over years, if not decades. The U.S. gets s*** on, often rightfully, for our politics but in the last couple of years the UK has been having up and down votes on the State of the Union. What the hell is going on over there?
This Brexit referendum only happened because Cameron put it on the table to ease his parties unrest 2 years a go. He put his own interests before those of the country and Brexit was the end result. The Irony is that it has demolished his legacy and mostly likely his political career.
Noooo don't kill my hopes of buying a Briton Village and turning it into a Fable Land. I'll let you be mayor.