The PS2 had competition from a console that was cheaper and had better looking versions of games too. So did the PS1. But overall it seems like you took my original post as me saying that when all I did was simply explain why people gave the PS3 a "fail" narrative. That was me saying the PS3 was a completely failure. I know why and how the release of the PS2 was different from the PS3. You don't have to explain it in-depth to me.
What competition? Seriously, what other console was out for as long as PS2 and offered mostly the same multiplats as well. This is what I mean by "real" competition. Some of the best selling games on PS3 and 360 are multiplats. That's a fact. So, it's quite easy for someone to make a choice between consoles. Pick the cheaper console that has the better version of a multiplat.
PS2, on the other hand, for most of it's life, didn't have that same compitetion. meaning, another console that mostly offered the same games. See what I mean? PS2 offered more unique games at the time, and didn't really have to deal with a competitor offering the same games. You're also ignoring a major point that people often overlook....it was a different time, with, for the most part, a different gaming base. This is why I say PS2 sales were an anamoly.
Many of the PS2 gamers split up during the gen that came after. Many went to Xbox 360 (hence, how/why the Xbox brand greatly increased in popularity during last gen) and some stuck to PS3. So no, many of them are still gamers. It's just that many of them didn't stick with the Playstation brand.
And many more just got older and stopped gaming altogether, with many of those that did remain gaming, owning both PS3 and 360.
What do you mean by "momentum"? Both the Xbox One and Xbox 360 sales increased each month during the January-March period of their first years.
360 continued momentum for years, it went from a small gaming brand (original xbox), to 360 and quickly climbed up to be America's favorite console. XB1 is gaining as well compared to Feb, but "considering" the release of TF, it didn't move as much as it should have. We all know very well that we all expected XB1 to do better. So while it did a tad bit better compared to previous month, considering the game that released...it didn't do as well as expected.
The Xbox One has sold twice as much as the Xbox 360 in the same time period (first 6 months) and has sold 60% more software in same time period as well so I don't get the "losing steam a whole lot quicker" statement at all.
The same way i said to judge PS3 on it's own merits and not compare it to PS2, I'm going to say the same for XB1. 360 wasn't the well known gaming brand that it eventually became to be when it first came out. We all know that. However, in the 8 years of it being out, it went from being a console that many expected wouldn't do well, to being the beast that it was....and becoming america's go to favorite console. Flash foward to 2013, Xb1 sold more first few months of release compared to 360....but again, that's expected, because in 2013, the brand was then a beast. But, don't compare Xb1 sales to 360 sales, compare it to PS4. XB brand went from dominating america over PS, to now coming in second. Coming in second, during a major game release...a point that cannot be stressed enough.
Losing steam is actually... you know... losing -- dropping down in sales. The system isn't doing that at all.
No, losing steam, as in, losing to it's competitor during a month with a major game launch.
The didn't win March but Titanfall did help the system. The gap between the PS4 and Xbox One in March would have been even greater if it wasn't for Titanfall.
No doubt, never said otherwise. But we know, and let's not play around here, that the, expectation was that XB1 would beat out PS4 in March. It should have. Easily. As a PS fanboy, I even expected it.
"Losing steam" and "losing ground in its primary territory" are two different things. While it's possible to do both at the same time, the former doesn't need to happen for the latter to be true.
I didn't say they were losing ground. I said they were losing steam....and they are. Stop looking at 360 initial sales....and look at what they started to do. I mean, 360 was selling more per month back on 2012....many years after release. And now, during a major game release month, they couldn't sell as much as they used to sell. Meanwhile, PS4 sold more than what they used to do per month, let's say, around the same time.
By the way, before this gets out of hand and we keep repeating the same thing over and over again....I'm in NO WAY saying that XB1 is a failure. I simply made a sarcastic comment at some here that think XB1 not beating out PS4 during the TF month in NA is not a big deal...yet believed PS3 to be a massive failure. And yes, I believe it to be nonsense that people think just because PS4 didn't sell as well as PS2, that it means they failed. Different times, different conditions, differing offerings, different release costs, etc. Things so dramatically different, that it makes comparing the 2 a bit unfair. Like seriously comparing apples to oranges.
