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If that's what you want that's fine, neither one is ideal but the benefits of going to SSD outweigh the lack of storage space that either console has packed in the box.
One has 1TB internal with a extremely convenient option to ADD more storage.

The other has a smaller 825gb internal option with likely NO option to add MORE storage but instead a option that would take away the 825gb.

Very bad planning on Sony's part.
 
"I never said it will overheat but I did unless..." lol They talked about the cooling back in June, this isn't a surprise and I would think anyone who thinks about games enough to bother posting on a forum like this especially as long as you have been would have already known that. It's just common sense even if you hadn't bothered to read up on it before bothering to comment, why would they design a console to run at a high speed and not make sure the cooling was in place for it?
Saying it will over heat and saying it will overheat unless there is good cooling condition are complete different meaning. the later is a conditional statement. Same way as if i said someone will fail, and he will fail if he did not work harder are different statements.

Obviously they have cooling, but doubting how effective the cooling is not an unreasonable statement. It’s not like Sony did not make exaggeration, like Toy story graphics for PS2, where it’s no where near. companies over sell or lie all the time. From VW False emission figures, Bedestha 16x the details.

i stand by what I said unless can be proven otherwise.
 
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One has 1TB internal with a extremely convenient option to ADD more storage.

The other has a smaller 825gb internal option with likely NO option to add MORE storage but instead a option that would take away the 825gb.

Very bad planning on Sony's part.

Or just failure to communicate those details to keep us in the clear and or prepare for the future...ya had one job Sony pffft :p
 
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One has 1TB internal with a extremely convenient option to ADD more storage.

The other has a smaller 825gb internal option with likely NO option to add MORE storage but instead a option that would take away the 825gb.

Very bad planning on Sony's part.

Not at all, their SSD is substantially faster and that was the point of going with SSD's to begin with, you are focusing on storage space which is the easiest and cheapest thing to fix.

Regardless of your insistence that Sony doesn't have options WE DO have options on both machines and you may like the way Xbox does it better that's fine, I wouldn't pay $220 for 1TB of extra storage nor would I pay $400 for a 2TB internal replacement SSD for PS5 when we have cheap options for storage for both machines.

Convenient or not $220 is a lot of money for 1TB of space, especially when you can get an external HDD with 5 times as much storage for half the price. For people like me neither one of these consoles has enough storage to hold the games we have now, hell I'd have to buy 2 of those external xbox series x ssd's to fit just what's on my One X external HDD now and even then it wouldn't leave any room for next gen games so I'd probably end up needing 2 more or leaving a bunch of my games off of storage and just download them later when I decide to play them again.
 
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Saying it will over heat and saying it will overheat unless there is good cooling condition are complete different meaning. the later is a conditional statement. Same way as if i said someone will fail, and he will fail if he did not work harder are different statements.

Obviously they have cooling, but doubting how effective the cooling is not an unreasonable statement. It’s not like Sony did not make exaggeration, like Toy story graphics for PS2, where it’s no where near. companies over sell or lie all the time. From VW False emission figures, Bedestha 16x the details.

i stand by what I said unless can be proven otherwise.

It is an uniformed statement to make at best, they designed this console around running the clocks high from the beginning, the cooling solution was part of that design. They aren't going to risk everything they have by putting out a console with cooling that can't handle the clocks, too many people keep confusing what's done on PC and mobile with what the PS5 is doing and no matter how many times it's explained that it's not the same thing they just can't seem to let that go. You can stand by your ignorance on the machine all you want, you aren't an ignorant person but you clearly haven't taken the time to read up on what's being done before forming an opinion or commenting on it.
 
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Or just failure to communicate those details to keep us in the clear and or prepare for the future...ya had one job Sony pffft :p

Watch the road to PS5 thing from March and it was communicated very clearly, anyone who says it wasn't either has forgotten, wasn't paying attention or just didn't watch it at all.
 
Watch the road to PS5 thing from March and it was communicated very clearly, anyone who says it wasn't either has forgotten, wasn't paying attention or just didn't watch it at all.

I totes forgot, but an official pic listing it would help. The thing that stuck out the most to me were those silhouettes lol petty I know :p

If they could make a video on how easy it is to share a game for the ps4 than they could easily make one on how to replace/add an ssd is.
 
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I totes forgot, but an official pic listing it would help. The thing that stuck out the most to me were those silhouettes lol petty I know :p

If they could make a video on how easy it is to share a game for the ps4 than they could easily make one on how to replace/add an ssd is.

I'm sure they'll make one when there is an SSD out there that they find compatible, they said it would likely be after launch. I really don't think anyone is going to be doing that though for a long time, it's just too expensive when you have cheaper options out there and all you need to do is swap games back and forth between the SSD and external storage.
 
One has 1TB internal with a extremely convenient option to ADD more storage.

The other has a smaller 825gb internal option with likely NO option to add MORE storage but instead a option that would take away the 825gb.

Very bad planning on Sony's part.

Maybe you skipped my post at #5232, but i already mentioned this, but here's another one:



It does the EXACT same thing as the Series X but is achieved differently.
 
Maybe you skipped my post at #5232, but i already mentioned this, but here's another one:



It does the EXACT same thing as the Series X but is achieved differently.


There hasn't been any confirmation by Sony that I can find that it's a separate bay to add SSD storage to go alongside the one that's included, all I have read to this point is that it's handled how it was with the PS4 and you replace the existing drive with something bigger. If that info changes that's great but it's still going to be extremely expensive to add SSD storage to play games from on either of these consoles.
 


The funny thing about this is MS hasn't really announced any first party AAA games that are cross-gen other than Halo, most of what they have announced is still years away and not coming to Xbox One consoles. The other funny thing is you can see with Spider-Man Miles Morales that the game couldn't look like that on current gen, MS wasn't able to show Halo in a way that made it look like something we couldn't play now. Both companies should have kept their mouths shut on the subject, it makes perfect business sense to do cross-gen titles for the first year but acting as if it was a pro consumer act to win internet approval or pretending that it wasn't being done because it would stifle developer creativity in first year games was dumb for both companies to do.
 
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It is an uniformed statement to make at best, they designed this console around running the clocks high from the beginning, the cooling solution was part of that design. They aren't going to risk everything they have by putting out a console with cooling that can't handle the clocks, too many people keep confusing what's done on PC and mobile with what the PS5 is doing and no matter how many times it's explained that it's not the same thing they just can't seem to let that go. You can stand by your ignorance on the machine all you want, you aren't an ignorant person but you clearly haven't taken the time to read up on what's being done before forming an opinion or commenting on it.
We will see I guess. I am happy to be wrong.
 
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We need to take him to the red light district and we shall not judge he for his choices, for he will be happy... not like of the before ;)
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I was looking for some reaction gif, then came upon this. Not sure how relevant is it, but funny, so might as well share. 😁
 
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I am hearing the PS5 dev kits are essentially PS4 dev kits. Any truth to that?
 
Looks is the least of my concern to be honest. But I don’t get why they like to design in vertical when most people will put them horizontal.
 
Looks is the least of my concern to be honest. But I don’t get why they like to design in vertical when most people will put them horizontal.
I agree. I do wish it was black though. Yes, they will have black at some point, but it's my fault I don't have patience.

Maybe they purposely made the console so big so that the PS5 Slim can be "90% smaller, biggest console size reduction in history of consoles" slogan?
 
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Looks is the least of my concern to be honest. But I don’t get why they like to design in vertical when most people will put them horizontal.

I seriously wonder if they want people to stop putting them inside of closed up entertainment cabinets.

You can technically set an XSX on the side, but supposedly the base doesn't come off, so it looks kind of goofy.
 
There hasn't been any confirmation by Sony that I can find that it's a separate bay to add SSD storage to go alongside the one that's included, all I have read to this point is that it's handled how it was with the PS4 and you replace the existing drive with something bigger. If that info changes that's great but it's still going to be extremely expensive to add SSD storage to play games from on either of these consoles.

Mark Cerny mentions it in the second link.
 
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