No. Because the answer is always something other than hardware. Dev talent, dev choices, engines, etc. Nothing new here.
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No. I'm saying it is the same thing different gen.
XSX is more powerful, end of. All the console war spinning over these analysis videos doesn't change that. Just accept it and move on. Fighting over 5FPS or a 300P is just ridiculous.
I know the XSX is supposed to be on paper but the results we have seen so far suggest they are much closer than we thought. PS5 has been coming ahead in Dirt 5, Valhalla, COD, Fenyx, Control, NBA 2K21 and all of them seems to fall on better performance as the general advantage. Xbox has the advantage in resolution in some games like Hitman 3, Outriders demo but the performance is not as optimized as the PS5's. My theory is that the higher clocked frequency on the PS5 helps it sustain the performance while the higher amount of CUs that the XSX has potentially gives it the resolution advantage in some titles at the cost of performance. The funny thing is that's not always the case. That's why I find these TA videos interesting. What's the real reason behind this parity?
Last gen, there was a clear difference, this gen, it's not so clear from the games we've seen so far, at least in terms of new ones. BC titles, Xbox definitely has the advantage there.
A list of last gen games.
Ahead where? This my point. You say PS5 comes out ahead, but it doesn't. Just BS spinning. Look at outriders, it has a few frames more but runs at a lower res, how is that "ahead." Just dumb console war BS. You can't claim higher clock superiority when the res has to be lowered to acheive it. I mean WTF.
And if this isn't consistent then clearly it has nothing to do with hardware and has everything to do with software, like I stated previously.
Not to mention that a 3 TF difference isn't some grand chasm in power to begin with when talking 3rd party.
So now those are all last gen games?
Ahead as in overall performance as outlined in multiple technical analysis videos. In Valhalla, Xbox resolution is lower than PS5's, doesn't mean the Xbox can't do higher resolution, just means they lowered it to help sustain performance. Same thing here with Outriders. The PS5 could probably do the same resolution as Xbox's but at the cost of performance, just like what the Xbox is displaying. The PS5 is the most optimized version for 60fps right now in the demo at least.
In Outriders, wouldn't you agree gameplay/fps is king? If yes, then PS5 comes out ahead.
There's a 1.72 theoretical tflops difference, not 3. Comes out to be about 16.7%. The only advantage that I've seen so far is resolution but then Xbox's performance takes a hit so clearly there are some tradeoffs for that.
What do you mean "now." I've always called them last gen games.
No s***, Sherlock. Thanks for agreeing and proving my point.
As for outriders, no, a 5FPS difference sometimes doesn't translate to anything. It is a nothing difference blown out of proportion to use as ammo in the war. One I bet none of you noticed while playing it.
Okay, last gen or current, it's just a label. They are all newly released games. There's no universal definition for next-gen or last gen so no point debating over that.
That's your interpretation of it. From your previous post, you can't even tell or feel the difference when the fps drops to the 40's on the XSS so I'm not surprised you would say that. It is not a nothing difference, it's only a nothing difference to you because you can't tell what's 40 and what's 60 fps. You probably don't notice the frame pacing hiccups/issues either, am I right? Just because you can't feel it doesn't mean it's not there because there are others that can actually feel and see the difference.
After playing the Outriders demo on both the XSX and PS5. I can confirm that I've noticed no differences between the two. But my brain doesn't have an internal FPS counter.
Something for Santa to bring you this year perhaps.After playing the Outriders demo on both the XSX and PS5. I can confirm that I've noticed no differences between the two. But my brain doesn't have an internal FPS counter.
Ok bionic man. 5fPS from 60 is nothing. But even if I concede to the ridiculous notion that it is this huge deal, it is still irrelevant because the difference isn't due to hardware. You even said it yourself. So, your console war ammo is nothing but, well, nothing. It isn't interesting either. So, we are back to it just being dumb.
Also, for the record, I never said I couldn't tell the difference between 45 and 60. I said I didn't notice it while actually playing the game. Big difference.
For somebody who claims to only be in this cause it is "interesting" you sure do talk alot of s*** to push this idea of your precious Playstation being better. Lol.
Just let it go, Shawn will never submit to reason. Going by a 2% higher fps in one area of a game but neglecting a 30% higher resolution and often better shadows etc doesn't matter in his warped way of thinking.
Merely stating the facts, PS5 has lower resolution with better performance at 60fps, Xbox has the higher resolution with 5-10% drops in framerates. That's all I stated. You see what you want to see from my posts.
So you didn't say the PS5 was ahead? GTFO with that nonsense. I have responded directly to what you have said. I don't need to do a you and only see what I want inorder push a ridiculous agenda.
"Bottom line, PS5 version is the most optimized right now for 60fps and gameplay and XSX/XSS aren't as evident in the tech analysis video. Now how they will try to optimize the Xbox consoles, we will see."
"Ahead as in overall performance as outlined in multiple technical analysis videos."
Oh okay. From the DF video it looks like 54fps was the lowest it dropped for the XSX. I know the XSS goes down to the 40's though.
That is what the DF video had (54), but maybe another video showed differently. The PS5 also dropped to 59 at a few points, so both are basically unplayable.
Hate to be the nerd here, technically 59fps can be 60fps, so is 61.
"Fixed" integer fps is a round off of a float number, & +/- one in FPS reading is normal. Doesn't neccesary means frame drops.
More BC goodness. Ouch XSS.
The only resolution found on PS5 was 2560x1440.
Xbox Series S uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being approximately 2304x1296 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2080x1170. Native resolution pixel counts at 2080x1170 seem to be common on Xbox Series S. On Xbox Series S a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3200x1800.
Xbox Series X uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3200x1800 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2560x1440. Native resolution pixel counts at or near 3200x1800 seem to be common on Xbox Series X. On Xbox Series X a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3200x1800 when rendering natively below this resolution.
All three consoles render the UI at 3840x2160.
Texture streaming is faster on PS5 than Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, more pop-ins for Xbox. Also more tearing on the Xbox.
The only resolution found on PS5 was 2560x1440.
Xbox Series S uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being approximately 2304x1296 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2080x1170. Native resolution pixel counts at 2080x1170 seem to be common on Xbox Series S. On Xbox Series S a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3200x1800.
Xbox Series X uses a dynamic resolution with the highest native resolution found being 3200x1800 and the lowest native resolution found being approximately 2560x1440. Native resolution pixel counts at or near 3200x1800 seem to be common on Xbox Series X. On Xbox Series X a form of temporal reconstruction is used to increase the resolution up to 3200x1800 when rendering natively below this resolution.
All three consoles render the UI at 3840x2160.
Texture streaming is faster on PS5 than Xbox Series X and Xbox Series S, more pop-ins for Xbox. Also more tearing on the Xbox.
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