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That's cynical...and as someone who's primarily gamed on Xbox since OG launched in 2001, it's crossed my mind. E3 will tell a lot. Price of Scorpio alone will tell a lot. If Scorpio is sold for a loss (399), MS is focused on long term. If there are reveals of new, expensive projects, MS is committed long term. If console is priced at $500 or above and there's more air time given to the value of the services and platform (not that they're not important) than new exclusives, then Microsoft is telegraphing that they are no longer interested in being a publisher.
Not really. If MS want out but still want services marketshar then the best way to that is to grow their userbase as much as possible over the remainder of this generation.
 
Scorpio itself is more than any marketing deal, first time since the original Xbox that a console as had a GPU, CPU, and massive RAM advantage over the competition.
 
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3 gigs isn't massive and the overall power gap is the same with PS4 vs XBO.
PS4 Pro vs PS4 and Xbox One is pretty big.
If we compare Scorpio to XBO or even PS4...its huge.
If it ends up for some reason....a PS2 vs OG XB difference with Pro and Scorpio....that's pretty significant.
I have strong doubts but all I am doing(like everyone else) is speculating.
Hopefully we have more solid answers soon.
 
Scorpio itself is more than any marketing deal, first time since the original Xbox that a console as had a GPU, CPU, and massive RAM advantage over the competition.
This is true. It's gonna be the largest power gap in history.
 
If Ms can get cyberpunk game, new bioware and Bethesda Ip they will be strong next year and year after just when Scorpio will come into its own
 
This is true. It's gonna be the largest power gap in history.

OG Xbox vs PS2 was a much more significant power gap. There were many PC games that couldn't be ported even with considerations for significant downgrades in graphics.

Scorpio over PS Pro is clear cut but I'll agree with people who say we're at a point of diminishing returns. If I preferred the PlayStation controller and online, I'd still get multiplats on the Pro even with the purchase of Scorpio.

If we see something beyond graphic detail (like Direct Physics being a major step up from current Havok physics) that could change the game a bit.
 
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OG Xbox vs PS2 was a much more significant power gap. There were many PC games that couldn't be ported even with considerations for significant downgrades in graphics.

Scorpio over PS Pro is clear cut but I'll agree with people who say we're at a point of diminishing returns. If I preferred the PlayStation controller and online, I'd still get multiplats on the Pro even with the purchase of Scorpio.

If we see something beyond graphic detail (like Direct Physics being a major step up from current Havok physics) that could change the game a bit.


You can port anything as long as you downgrade it enough....it's just the more you downgrade it, the less people want it.

Max Payne on GAME BOY ADVANCE is a good example

 
3 gigs isn't massive and the overall power gap is the same with PS4 vs XBO.
PS4 Pro vs PS4 and Xbox One is pretty big.
If we compare Scorpio to XBO or even PS4...its huge.
If it ends up for some reason....a PS2 vs OG XB difference with Pro and Scorpio....that's pretty significant.
I have strong doubts but all I am doing(like everyone else) is speculating.
Hopefully we have more solid answers soon.
Why the Fuk do people keep spouting this crap? Fuking Christ. It's been shown, proven that the power gap is much bigger than Xbox PS4. Fuk me, I'm a Lamen and I understood the breakdown better than some of you experienced arm chair devs.
 
3 gigs isn't massive and the overall power gap is the same with PS4 vs XBO.
PS4 Pro vs PS4 and Xbox One is pretty big.
If we compare Scorpio to XBO or even PS4...its huge.
If it ends up for some reason....a PS2 vs OG XB difference with Pro and Scorpio....that's pretty significant.
I have strong doubts but all I am doing(like everyone else) is speculating.
Hopefully we have more solid answers soon.

An additional cache of 3gb of faster RAM than pro is massive, it's alnost 60% more than the total RAM pro has, and it's faster. Sorry, that's massive. Pro does not have this advantage over the others and it cannot be spun in any way.
 
An additional cache of 3gb of faster RAM than pro is massive, it's alnost 60% more than the total RAM pro has, and it's faster. Sorry, that's massive. Pro does not have this advantage over the others and it cannot be spun in any way.
Roughly 40% and change power difference.
 
An additional cache of 3gb of faster RAM than pro is massive, it's alnost 60% more than the total RAM pro has, and it's faster. Sorry, that's massive. Pro does not have this advantage over the others and it cannot be spun in any way.
Did you not get the memo ? you can do the same amount of work with a half a TF difference versus almost two . The Scorpio literally almost has another PS4 worth of gpu power. So combine that with three gigs of faster ram , that equates to the same power difference between the Xbox one and PS4. Wait... what ??
 
Did you not get the memo ? you can do the same amount of work with a half a TF difference versus almost two . The Scorpio literally almost has another PS4 worth of gpu power. So combine that with three gigs of faster ram , that equates to the same power difference between the Xbox one and PS4. Wait... what ??

Obvious posters want to pretend like RAM isn't important, "lets only talk about the GPU because its the same difference as ps4 over xb1"

lmao
 
Did you not get the memo ? you can do the same amount of work with a half a TF difference versus almost two . The Scorpio literally almost has another PS4 worth of gpu power. So combine that with three gigs of faster ram , that equates to the same power difference between the Xbox one and PS4. Wait... what ??
40% and change power difference.
 
I remember when RAM was important...

Back when sony had the advantage.
 
It was important but you forget this every time you forget to add the PS4's HUGE Ram advantage vs the XBO with the dumb just comparing GPU's(over 40% PS4 advantage) and over exaggerating CPU vs CPU advantages(when no comparisons updated the extra core Sony unlocked years after nullifying much of the already minor XBO advantage)

But hey we have front page stories that falsely show Scorpio at 50% better than Pro and forgetting to list 9GB's of total Pro ram.
 
READ the specs. Read real comparisons ie not on the front page.
We had the specs. They were analyzed thoroughly by DF. Host said out right, there is a significant power difference between the Pro and Scorpio. That 40% difference is a Gulf, not a puddle of piss running down hill, bruh. Get cho sh!t straight, dev.
 
We had the specs. They were analyzed thoroughly by DF. Host said out right, there is a significant power difference between the Pro and Scorpio. That 40% difference is a Gulf, not a puddle of piss running down hill, bruh. Get cho sh!t straight, dev.
Exactly 40%(and change)