Well doesn't the Wii tell you to go outside or something? At least I thought it did."XBox, snap Pizza Hut app."
"How about a salad instead?"
Well doesn't the Wii tell you to go outside or something? At least I thought it did."XBox, snap Pizza Hut app."
"How about a salad instead?"
They can say whatever they want about what they will or will not do, but the truth is you sign a TOS that can be changed at anytime and without notice.
This is about turning the consumer into a commodity and charging the customer for it. That is my biggest issue with it.
Changing the ToS doesn't mean the user automatically agrees to it. The user has to agree to the new terms.
They aren't charging you for it. And 'turning the consumer into a commodity' in this context is FUD speak for 'offering consumers better advertisements catered to their tastes' instead of just random ads for s*** the user doesn't care about. In your worldview *anything* that is good for MS is automatically bad for consumers...even when it's objectively good for consumers (like better ads).
Right and every kid in the world is going to read through every line of 25 or 30 paragraphs of leagalese and double speak and understand it completely.
Puhleeze. Most just want to get to their gaming as quickly as possible.
Don't insult everyone's intelligence and pretend that isn't what MS is counting on.
Sure they are. You pay for Live don't you?
That is why MS sent out a response team after Medhi's latest gaffe and are astroturfing all over the net today.
If people are going to opt into something like this they should be compensated not charged for the privilege. That is how focus groups work.
My worldview does not consider good or bad for large corporations unless I am a stockholder. I only consider what is good for me as a consumer.
Don't presume to tell me what my worldview is when you have no idea.
And your damage control was hardly convincing. Not my fault that I don't want to be exploited for a fee rather than compensation. That is what you are attempting to sell here. I ain't buying.
And what gamer was clamoring for "BETTER ADS" in the coming generation? Here is a hint: Nobody. Ever.
They aren't charging you for it. And 'turning the consumer into a commodity' in this context is FUD speak for 'offering consumers better advertisements catered to their tastes' instead of just random ads for s*** the user doesn't care about. In your worldview *anything* that is good for MS is automatically bad for consumers...even when it's objectively good for consumers (like better ads).
True, but I don't see this happening. It's a stretch.However, if Kinect collect data from your facial features, body shape, social behavior (in front of kinect), many people will go wild, when they keep getting ads on slimming, skincare, hair tranplant, etc.
Terms of service are a new concept to you, huh? Yes, let's avoid blaming ppl who are too lazy to read a ToS, too lazy to turn the Kinect settings off, and too lazy to just unplug the device if they are actually paranoid about it. MS, the company who put all those steps in place specifically for the crazies like yourself to feel at ease, they are to blame for your stupidity and laziness! Surely!.
That's objectively false. Most actually spend more time with non-gaming apps than playing games. But do continue making s*** up.
I'm insulting your intelligence because it's lacking and illustrates naivete. If MS aimed to secretly "force" consumers to agree to something "sinister" they wouldn't give consumers various options to disable the data collection in the first place. Derp.
You don't get charged in order to have Kinect track you. You're outright lying now. Good try though.
Astroturfing...you believe that because morons like bish at GAF assert as much when really he bans ppl who have no ties to MS at all and then links them ad hoc. Reminds me of the Reddit fiasco a while back. Some ppl never learn.
You aren't charged a dime and there are multiple ways to avoid it, even after opting in and showing off some of the intellectual incompetence demonstrated by ppl too stupid to read before whining about what they didn't read in the first place.
Clearly that's not true lest you wouldn't begrudge better ads in favor of worse ones....?
Your nonsense bias is pretty clear from the posts you make. Has been for a while now. No presumption necessary. If it's good for MS it MUST be bad for consumers in your eyes...the same guy who ran around telling ppl how requiring a connection once a day was akin to violent attacks on their consumers. Oops...there's that post history creeping up again.
And tell me how they "exploit" you again? They use the data to find out what you want as a consumer and try to sell that to you. That's a GOOD thing. No spin, no damage control. Just utterly obvious facts. If I'm going to see ads, I'd prefer they be game/movie ads. This will help ensure that's what I see. The alternative is to get hit with ads that I don't care about and only waste my time.
Your mind was made up long ago. I'm not trying to sell you anything, just correcting the nonsensical assertions you are making so others don't fall into the trap of actually believing your assertions.
Again you have no idea what you are talking about.
So you're saying better ads are...worse for audiences? That's the claim you are really trying to make with a straight face...?
I think it depends on how the data are collected.
If I fill in a check list of the type of things I am interested in, say, sports, travel, gadgets, Movies, Music, & MS catered ads & promotions on these thing, I do not think many people will complain.
Or if they prom you that you search a lot of shows on cars, would you like to catered more car news, infomation ads for you?
For instance also, on youtube, if you look for a video on game, tehy have ads sometimes on games, so its fair enough, or car ads when you look for videos on car reviews. This is target advertising, but its accepatbel by most people.
However, if Kinect collect data from your facial features, body shape, social behavior (in front of kinect), many people will go wild, when they keep getting ads on slimming, skincare, hair tranplant, etc.
However, if Kinect collect data from your facial features, body shape, social behavior (in front of kinect), many people will go wild, when they keep getting ads on slimming, skincare, hair tranplant, etc.
I know people are joking about this possibility, but does anyone think MS is stupid enough to have those kind of ads? I honestly don't think they are.that will be funny....till it happens to me LOL
This. I have spoken out against things like P90x as ripoffs, but I realize that if nobody used them, they wouldn't be around. 100% Guarantee this: If MS were to pay retailers to set aside space for Xbox Fitness demos (where people can actually do the routine), X1 would be sold out for months.If I were MS, I'd have booths dedicated to fitness and entertainment, that way you can show the variety offered in the product. It'd be a good opportunity to show off the voice controls and ability to bring up other apps during gaming.
If I were MS, I'd have booths dedicated to fitness and entertainment, that way you can show the variety offered in the product. It'd be a good opportunity to show off the voice controls and ability to bring up other apps during gaming.
I'm 100% with you guys on this one. It has already been seen that MS is into targeting the "casual" crowd, doing this would be huge for them.This. I have spoken out against things like P90x as ripoffs, but I realize that if nobody used them, they wouldn't be around. 100% Guarantee this: If MS were to pay retailers to set aside space for Xbox Fitness demos (where people can actually do the routine), X1 would be sold out for months.
Has anyone heard of an extension cable for the new Kinect yet? I like a few of my friends don't have there equipment right below there TV so the 9FT cable that comes with the new Kinect 2.0 won't be enough. It would be nice if I got this sorted before the console launches, right now the sensor would have to be in the corner of the room which would kind of defeat the purpose, I guess I could still use the voice commands. but the Kinect would be looking at the back of my head.